How do you fix G string ringing?

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  1. 3bolt79

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    Hoe many frets let the rocker rock? Try putting a little more relief in the neck. When I do a fret level, none of the frets rock afterward. Fender spec is .010 relief.
     
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    I'll test it again when I get home and be more specific about which frets it is. I would love to solve this. It was at .012, and I tightened it to .008. The ringing was the same either way.
     
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    I’m using a Dunlop string action gauge as a rocker. I can check each fret except the 19th fret by using the short side on some in the long side on others. The fifth, seventh, and 20th frets have what I would call a very very slight rock. I don’t know how big of a rock it needs to be in order for it to be considered significant.
     
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    Scott Baxendale Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    The nut slot and saddle must have clean contact with the string. It’s very common for a small flat spot in either the saddle or the bottom of the nut slot. If it goes away when you fret it then it’s most likely a problem in the nut and if it persists when you fret it it’s likely in the saddle.
     
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    First thing I did is scan this thread for the inevitable jokes, LOL.
     
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    It only happens when fretted. The saddles are bent steel, so there is no slot. I tried switching the high E and G saddles, but that didn’t do anything.
     
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    Jackson Ford New Member! Gold Supporting Member

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    I had a problem with an open G buzz. Turns out I had adjusted the pickup height to 5/64" bass side and 4/64" treble thinking I had standard single coil pickups. My noiseless pickups require 8/64 and 6/64. The G was the problem because it has the tallest pickup.
     
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    Probably your springs that rings.
     
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    This sounds like regular fret-buzz. Was this present before you changed the relief?
    Your action is on the low side. Having a straight neck with low action and light gauge strings will rarely work well unless you have a consistent light attack on the picking hand.
    Increase the action and recheck.
     
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    "Just happens when fretting the 1st-18th."

    IMHO, this is this first glue.
    This often happens when the truss is a adjusted a little loose with a neck that starts to bow around the 18th fret, causing a slight belly in the neck from there down to the nut. Sight the neck and straighten it, then raise the action accordingly to get your action where you want it.
     
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    You mentioned that there's a fret rocker issue at 20? Are there 21 frets on the guitar? If so, is the problem still there when you fret 21?

    I'm wondering if 20 being too high is the issue.
     
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    Yes, it did it with relief at .012 and .008. My other guitars do it a little and it’s subtle. Somehow this one is much more pronounced. I tried two other guitars of the exact same model, and they didn’t do it. I went with this one because it was the lightest, and I figured there’d be a way to correct it. I’m kinda starting to get used to it, but I’d rather fix it.
     
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    I’ll have to check that out thanks. It has 21 frets.
     
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    I’ll try that thanks. When you say straighten the neck, do you mean tighten the truss Rod till it’s at 0?
     
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    Is there a fix for that? Maybe different springs? Or attach them to the claw better?
     
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    I don't know why this wasn't suggested to you earlier... as there are many gurus here, but this is actually a simple fix.

    Pluck the string and listen for the annoying ring.
    Pluck the string in the same way, except this time, put your finger on the G string behind the nut.
    Does the ringing stop?
    Probably.

    Place stretchy hair band over strings behind the nut.
     
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  18. scooteraz

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    Me too.
     
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    I have seen some folks put yarn between the springs to damp said sounds. Sort of like using yarn behind the nut for the same purpose.
     
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    From the clip you post, you have some buzz. There is also some ringing from Springs. They ring more at different pitch as you go up. Better check relief and have a general setup.
    As for dampening springs, one can always mute them with shrink hose
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