How to finish a dyed guitar?

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  1. Jimi Lightning

    Jimi Lightning Most Honored Senior Member

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    I’m looking at wood she (stain) Its a powder that mixes with water or alcohol apparently.
    I have never worked with this medium.

    What’s the best finish to put overtop, semi glossy.

    Clear coat Acrylic spray
    Clean coat Laquer spray
    (I have never had any luck with rattle can clear coats)

    Brushed on Urethane
    ???
     
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    Luthier Vandros Strat-Talk Member

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    What kind of wood are you working with?
     
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    Eric_G Strat-Talker

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    An easy one is TruOil, however I would say that depends on the color of the stain (dye).

    TruOil will bring a bit of yellow into the end results, so certain colors works better, bringing the end result a tad more clear...

    As for the Gloss, with TruOil it all depends how much you buff at the end...
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunnyman Frankenstein Silver Member

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    After it dries completely, Acrylic Lacquer works well. Duplicolor Perfect Match clear lays out nicely. Work in light coats and move evenly staying perpendicular to the surface. After a few coats, wetsand it and respray. Wash rinse and repeat to get it glassy smooth.
     
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    I think, if it were me, that I'd practice on something first. Maybe several rehearsals before setting out on something that, with this medium, may be very hard to fix after the fact.

    And I'd get good at rattle can lacquer while I was at it. And graduated wet sanding. And polishing compound.

    If you want your results to have that ... 'je ne sais quoi' quality thing going on....
     
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    Jimi Lightning Most Honored Senior Member

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    Wood will be popular ( kit guitar)
    Colour will be red.

    Ive played with rattle cans and finishes,lots and sanded. I always find the finish thin and unappealing. However am valuing all opinions on this.

    I am familiar with paint/application etc.. as I was working in the sign industry in the 70s when that was the way it was done.However we never Put a finish on top.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    Keda dye on the top, Minwax rattle can lacquer all around. Worked well for me.

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    @nadzab Thats a beautiful guitar. Its the same dye I’m looking at.
    Have never heard of Minwax rattle can lacquer but am familiar with Miniwax.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    Thanks! If you can find Minwax clear poly in a spray can, you should be able to get similar results. One of the most important steps to good rattle can finishes, IMHO, is warming the can in a pot of warm water before spraying - greatly improves the flow and lay-down characteristics.
     
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    Poplar will not take stain evenly, so you will need a sealer/conditioner coat first.
     
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    If your uncomfortable with rattle cans you may use a wipe on finish. Lacquer, poly, oil, etc...
     
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    grumpah Strat-Talk Member Silver Member

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    I have had good results with C*l*rT*ne Waterbase Guitar Finish Satin Top Coat over stained bodies [I mix a water based stain with water based sanding sealer applied liberally and then sanded smooth as it raises the grain]. I use a foam brush and apply six or so thin coats allowing approximately two hours between coats. It self levels reasonably well and the finish is pretty tough once fully cured. It doesn't run if one keeps the coats thin and there is little chance of orange peeling. It is virtually odorless and I have used it in temperatures ranging from 60 to 90 degrees F without a problem.
     
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    You could also get a 4 ounce bottle of thin C/A and a roll of paper towels. Sounds weird, I know. Fold a paper towel then pour some C/A onto it and wipe it on. Let it dry, and donit again.
    I did 6 layers on both the body and the neck of this one then didngraduated wet sanding to 2000 grit. Polished with Maguire's Mirror glaze #2 then waxed with carnuba wax. Came out looking really deep.
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    Plus, it won't sun bleach as much as polyurethane or lacquers either.
     
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    i mix my dyes with denatured alcohol, it does not raise the grain like water does.

    i have had no problem with any type of finish over the dyes i have tried so far.

    shellac, lacquer, poly, acrylic lacquer.