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How to fix this 1992 American Floyd Rose Classic Strat?

Discussion in 'Tech-Talk' started by TLstrat, Nov 29, 2017.

  1. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    Well, it doesn't mention what factory are these from.

    Anyway, if it fits a Standard Strat and it's up to Fender specs, then I guess it this will do. Though it is much cheaper than the price Fender were asking for on their website. Less than have, actually.

    And in case I get these, should I replace the high E's bushing as well?
     

  2. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    The bushings that are on the face of the headstock?

    I assume the tuners will come with new ones.
     

  3. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    According to the listing you linked to, they do. I meant whether it's actually necessary/advised to also replace the bushing?

    I'm even sure how to do that. One video suggested to put a screwdriver through the bushing and move in a circular motion, but the guy also claimed it would induce a tiny bit of chamfering which shouldn't interfere with the new bushing. Not sure whether that's the best option.
     

  4. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

    34
    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    Say, can you manage to detect whether the (relatively) cheap tuners from Hong Kong are actually from a genuine make Fender had been using?

    I can't say whether they look exactly like mine (the curve of the plate at the last tuner seems smoother than mine), and as I said the inside logo is not clear in the photo (mine just says "Japan").

    I asked the seller which factory are these from and they answered "from the one that supplies to Fender", lol. If it's just a Chinese copy I don't need to pay $23 for it, they sell these for $5.
     

  5. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA
    Not with those pictures.


    Put "Fender Vintage Tuner" into your country's Ebay.

    I only chose the listing I gave you because it had free worldwide shipping.
     

  6. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    I can't find this specific type locally. I'll just order the Gotoh ones from the US, it's more expensive but there are a few more things I need from that seller anyway, so I'll make it a single order at least.

    The Gotoh ones are fine, yes?
     

  7. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA

  8. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

    34
    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    Hm... Well, whether that's true or not, I'll probably not change the entire six as the rest is good (and 4 are already stringed, I use Elixir so let's hope they'll keep fresh until the orders arrive), but I'll just provide them with the sale. Selling them by ones won't be very efficient and if someone wants several it's usually a complete set.

    By the way, I saw a bunch of buyers had complaints about the locking model you linked to. Some said "cheap price and it shows" – but it's priced at $65. Doesn't sound cheap to me, perhaps they changed the actual item sold through that page since these reviews had been written.
     

  9. vid1900

    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 25, 2016
    USA

  10. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    52
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    You don't need locking tuners with a Floyd Rose.
     

  11. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    I wasn't planning on buying the locking tuners, vid1900 simply linked to them when I asked about Gotoh. But maybe I don't understand: aren't locking tuners just for clamping the string into place rather than winding it? It makes string changing faster and possibility slightly relieves tuning issues that might arise from imprecise winding, but it doesn't lock the string into tune like a locking nut does – so they aren't mutually exchangeable function-wise.
     

  12. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    As has been said the grease is leaking out of the tuners. Several people have given you options on how to fix or replace them.

    The bridge issue...
    Floyd Rose restring meme.jpg


    Those bugs (or whatever)
    kill it with fire meme.JPG
     

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  13. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    Heya, remember me?

    It took a longer-than-expected while until all of the parts I ordered have arrived.


    First - I installed the new high E tuner. I didn't take out the old bushing as it seemed like an unnecessary bother. If it doesn't look damaged in any form, using a new one wouldn't be especially important, I suppose?

    I then installed the new G saddle and replaced all of the old string blocks with titanium ones - I'm glad I did that because some of these remaining string blocks had also become quite difficult to extract, probably not far from becoming stuck like the block in the G saddle. This upgrade will obviously benefit whomever is to purchase this guitar rather than me, but I'd rather sell something that won't become "faulty" within a few months.



    Now, I tried to plug it in and there's no sound coming out... I hope this is a simple fix, so before I take it to a technician just so they'll make a 10 second adjustment, could you guys point me out to the parts I should inspect in regards to no sound output?
     

  14. apm1991

    apm1991 Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    27
    Feb 14, 2017
    Arizona
    Carpet Beetle!!! Those are carpet beetle larvae... Along with my bed bug infestation... I found 100's of these I'm apartment and yes a lot in my guitar cases!
     

  15. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va

    After all that you might as well keep it awhile. Well not the bugs anyway
     

  16. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

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    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    But the point of getting it fixed was for selling it, or rather trading it. I wanted to get an electro-acoustic, and I don't look to hoard up guitars. Maintaining a Floyd Rose is rather annoying, and I already have an Ibanez 7 string with a floating bridge. It also has coil splitting so I can get nice single coil tones out of it. I would've probably considered holding onto this Strat if I only had my Les Paul Studio as the remaining guitar.

    Anyway, any tips on what to look for in regards to the lack of signal output?
     

  17. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va
    Assuming it worked when you cased it up last time I'd start by checking easy stuff like the jack first. See if it's still tight. If so check the connections. Maybe under the pickguard next. Check all that stuff.
     

  18. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 13, 2011
    Music City TN
    Measure the resistance presented at the output jack with the volume control at "10" in each of the switch positions.
    Then measure with the volume control at "0", and at "8".

    At "10" it should reveal the approx resistances of the pickups(s) minus about 2.5% to account for the parallel value of the pot.
    At "0" it should be near 0 Ohms in all switch positions.
    At around "8" it should measure about 1/4 of the potentiometer value plus the pickup value.

    Deviations from the about will point in the direction of the problem.
     

  19. TLstrat

    TLstrat Strat-Talk Member

    34
    Nov 29, 2017
    Israel
    It shows zero resistance whatever the setting.
     

  20. Inverness

    Inverness Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    50
    Dec 24, 2013
    Salt Lake City
    Unscrew the output jack first and see if one of the wires has come loose. After that, it is backtracking into the rest.