How to tighten a round switch nut?

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  1. Wound_Up

    Wound_Up Senior Stratmaster

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    How the he** do you tighten the round face nut that holds the switch in place on a Les Paul? This is a deep shouldered nut and not the flat one that comes with the Switchcraft 3-way toggle.

    I've read and seen in vids that you shouldn't use pliers because it can mar up the finish on the nut and around it on the guitar itself. So how do you tighten it without buying the $20 StewMac tool? Would one of these knob remover/spanner wrench things work? Thanks.

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    I went ahead and ordered a Stew Mac adjustable switch wrench. It’s great because it adjusts to metric or standard switch ring sizes.
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    I've tightened them with pliers :eek:
    Cut a suitable size hole in an old duster or T shirt and tighten carefully and positively.
    Be careful and it should be ok. :whistling:
     
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    PCollen Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    I've just put a scrap of cloth/handkerchief, t-shirt over the jaws of pliers and go at it.
     
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    I think in english they are called drive socket tools,or sets..something like this for example.

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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    I have that too - makes the task a breeze, and idiot-proof. A little pricey, but I've used mine quite a bit, and I think it's well worth it for a one-time purchase that will last a lifetime.
     
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    I used to use needlenose on all guitar pots and switches because I was just lazy and they were usually near me. I just keep a set of deep sockets in a nearby drawer now for guitar and amp pots and switches. If I ever sorted out all my sockets, I'd probably have about five sets of them.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    Conventional hex sockets, as pictured above, will not work on the nut in question.
     
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    I tried the pliers and messed up the finish on the round nut. They were even taped up with electrical tape. I'm worried about messing up the finish around it using pliers.

    I went ahead and ordered one of those wrenches. I saw a vid of the guy using one to loosen a round nut on a LP so I'm gonna give it a shot. I also ordered a 2-pack of new nuts so I can attempt to get it on there without messing it up this time.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    The wrench in your original post? I’ll be curious to hear how you like it.
     
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    Wow
    Complete with U joint
     
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    I'll definitely report back on how well it works or doesn't work. It seemed to work well enough in the vid I saw. I used pliers last time and marred the nut up in 2 spots so I figured I'd try something else. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? I put the old marred nut back on? Lol. I have 2 more coming so hopefully I'll get one on without dinging it up.

    I did find where someone said you can make a tool out of PVC pipe. But that's all I saw. I'm guessing you warm the end up and imprint the nut into the end of the PVC so it grabs, then use it like the stewmac tool, except with no adjustment.
     
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    I'm gonna try one just to see if it will even grab. If I had one of those old 'Gator Grip' sockets, I'd be set. Or a number of other sockets used to removed rounded off nuts & bolts.
     
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    $20?? I can make a bunch of these for $3.00 each
     
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    I have one. Comes in handy for many things kinda like have a versatile pocket knife does. I like it for tightening the nuts on tuners among other things.

    You can buy it from Music Nomad for $10.99 and while I agree it's pricey for what it is it saves me from having to try to make other tools do the job it does very well.
     
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    I think the $20 reference is to the Stew-Mac wrench (actually $24):

    Adjustable Toggle Switch Wrench
     
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    That's not it in the pic I posted. That's a separate thing I found from Musicnomad. And the StewMac tool is more like $34 with 9.99 shipping added in. Or they charge $34 for the tool on Amazon with "free" shipping. No, they just combined it all into the price. I'm not sure why they didn't just list it the way it is at their site on Amazon, too. :shrug:

    That's the one I bought. I got it because it has microfiber on the back to keep from scratching stuff. It'll be here this afternoon. Living less than 3 hours from Dallas has its perks. Amazon delivers 90% of my orders from directly to my local post office(or the larger one next door in Shreveport, about 5 miles away) and then the USPS brings it the last 2 or 3 miles(or 5 with 1 handoff from Shreveport). If USPS handled it the entire way, I'm afraid it'd take a week lol.

    If this doesn't meet my expectations, I'll likely return it and throw in another $22 for the StewMac tool.
     
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    ‘I bought mine on sale for 20 bux and free shipping. I joined stew mac’s membership to get free shipping and discounts on tools and stuff for members. That was 2 months ago and it’s already paid for itself.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    I bought mine several years ago, I think the regular price was around $20 then. I’ve let my membership lapse in the last year or so, but when I was doing a lot of partscaster assembly, it was priceless. It’s like the cost to ship 3 orders at the regular price, so even ordering one or two small items you might have forgotten is painless.
     
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