I Hate To Do It..

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by WhiteWabbit, Jun 10, 2021 at 4:40 PM.

  1. WhiteWabbit

    WhiteWabbit Senior Stratmaster

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    Make a negative thread about a much better guitarist than myself but I never got the hype behind Alvin Lee. The guy just loves that one lick and does it over and over again! I noticed it first on I’m Going Home from Woodstock which has admittedly grown on me over time but I clicked on this YouTube video a second ago of them doing Spoonful in 1968 and he fires that same repetitive fast lick off sooooo many times! I guess he doesn’t always do it because there is some Ten Years After stuff I love like the Isle of Wight performance but yea, I can’t be the only one who notices this.
     
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    WhiteWabbit Senior Stratmaster

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    4:00 minute mark and on is the stuff I’m talking about. If I heard that at a guitar store I’d want that kid unplugged!
     
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    Yep, and IMHO it has no place in that song at all.
     
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    And Eddie van Halen tapped too much... no.
    It's called a signature lick. I wish I was gifted enough to be that repetitive and get away with it.
     
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    But not the four minutes leading up to the 4:00 mark?

    This song is a solid case for good fast punk. The 70s couldn't come soon enough.
     
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    His playing is sloppy. Not my bag.
     
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    Any time that I'm tempted to criticize the "wow" factor of a guitarist from many years ago, I remind myself that you can't properly appreciate what they did without having lived through that time. There's been too much progress in rock guitar playing since then that will bias our opinions.

    There are a lot of players from yesteryear who I can listen to and potentially say, "What's the big deal?" There a thousands of players today technically better than Hendrix, EVH and Satriani yet all of them piggy-backed on what those guys started. In their day, they had the "wow" factor because no one else was doing what they were doing.
     
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    Something is better than nothing.
     
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    This thread is getting me upset...
     
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    As long as
    You Dunt
    Put your eyes out
    Or
    Bleed to death
    On
    Overly long string end punctures...
    What's the loss....
     
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    I’m just saying that’s when it becomes almost unbearable. Lol
     
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    This is true and I just guess people in that day were like wow that’s fast! But now it’s like it’s not that fast and it’s just sloppy as hell lol
     
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    Had to take my headphones off :eek:
     
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    Then don't.
     
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    Mouse The Knees of Rock

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    My guess (and it's only a guess because I wasn't there) was it was his speed and energy that drew people in. Obviously some great songs as well. Listen to Hendrix. He was often just as sloppy and not as fast but he was also introducing a new sound so the sloppiness is forgiven.

    I lived through the prime EVH era. Back then our jaws dropped at what he was doing. Listening today, even I'm like, "Meh, he's tapping those simple triplets again" but that's because tapping has evolved so much since then. But he did it first in his style (please let's not get into the who did tapping first argument).

    Running a sub-4 minute mile doesn't sound so impressive to modern day marathoners but it sure was impressive in 1952. It's all about context.
     
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    BTW, when I first saw the Woodstock film when I was in high school, all of my friends the next day were talking about Alvin Lee. No one else from the film...not even Hendrix. We were amazed that a player from the 60s was playing that fast. Even to our EVH saturated ears it sounded impressive.
     
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    That's odd. Alvin always speaks very highly of you. :D
     
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    You had to be there to grasp the impact of Alvin Lee and 10 years after.
    And I was. It was new and powerfull. But the only song I remember is Going Home.
     
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    He’s not as cute as John Mayer…..
     
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    But he had flower power, peace and love.
     
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