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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by qjenks23, Feb 9, 2019.

Which one do you think i should choose?

  1. White road worn

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    50.0%
  2. Candy apple red classic series

    9 vote(s)
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  3. Monterey strat

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    6.7%
  4. Purple tele

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  1. Yves

    Yves Most Honored Senior Member

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    You know both the Monterey and 60s roadworn have vintage-style 7.25”radius.
    The roadworn has narrow jumbo frets and the Monterey the vintage (thin) frets.
    I personally like to play the vintage specs because I learnt to play on this types of necks as a young man. However I find the fret wires wear a lot faster than they used to back on the old days.
    These days I play more a (modern specs) 9.5 radius and it feels great. I imagine most of the guitars you have been playing have probably modern specs and a 9.5 radius with meatier frets may suit you best, feel more comfortable to play. also with meatier fret wires, you'll have the option to have a re-crowning done a few years down the line once they wore flat on top.
    Have you tried the 60s American Original? I love the way it feels and looks too. it combines vintage looks with modern features.
     
  2. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The same reason that many of us prefer a leather jacket after it's been well worn in (shiny, stiff new leather jackets are awful) or prefer a comfy pair of old shoes in the last year before they fall apart - they feel good.

    Well they feel good if they're done very well. Unfortunately the Road Worns are not done well, they skimped & cut too many corners, which is why I avoid them.
     
  3. Martins Strat

    Martins Strat Strat-Talker

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    It’s a fair point about fretwear, but to give it a little context my MIJ 62 strat has been played almost everyday for 23 years, lots of that time with 13 gauge strings and digging in hard. Yes the frets are worn now but it’s still a few years away from a refret.
     
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  4. Yves

    Yves Most Honored Senior Member

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    Your st62 MIJ is 23 years old.
    My St 62 MIJ is now 2.5 years old and the frets are already flattened not leaving enough to recrown.
    I suspect they use a softer alloy since you got yours
     
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    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Is it an alloy?
     
  6. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Yes, it's copper, nickel and zinc. Usually 60/20/20, but as @Yves says, the modern stuff seems to be getting very soft, guitar frets aren't the only things where this is becoming an issue, possibly cause by the amount of recycled material used now.
     
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  7. Martins Strat

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    Blimey, yes I guess that’s the kind of specs they don’t tell us.
     
  8. Martins Strat

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    You’ve got a MIJ same age as mine haven’t you? How are the frets on yours?
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    They've been levelled a couple of times, it's getting close to being refretted, but it has been played to death...
     
  10. Yves

    Yves Most Honored Senior Member

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    Only based on my personal assumption I should have added.
    Oh! Just saw it was confirmed
     
  11. Bob the builder

    Bob the builder Senior Stratmaster

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    Have you been out there trying any?
    You should be.
    Really.
    Your parents are getting it for you as a graduation gift. You don't want to be disappointed with it down the road.
     
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  12. Yves

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    Yeah... see this old thread...
    I'd go for the CS ones. Cause you don't know if the old guy will come up with such an offer again...
    (That's an old guy talking) my old guy never did.
    Go crazy !! You won't have another chance!!!
     
  13. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I assumed that frets must simply be steel since one of the alternatives is stainless steel. It hadn't occurred to me that it might be an alloy that's mainly copper. So steel frets wouldn't work?
     
  14. Thrup'ny Bit

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    Steel would work as frets, but it would be harder to work with. Quite what the stuff they call stainless steel is, I'm not sure, but it isn't what your kitchen knives are made from.
     
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    And your kitchen knives aren't made from the stuff that the fastenings on your boat are. There are many types of stainless steel with different qualities. Take your knives on a trip across the Atlantic and they will rust :) I always assumed that the stainless frets were at least the same quality as your average cutlery. Now I'm left wondering.
     
  16. qjenks23

    qjenks23 New Member!

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    Yes I’ve tried them all and like them all for different reasons, that’s why i need help deciding.
     
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  17. AxemanVR

    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I chose the "White Road Worn" in your poll because I think they look cool and I love the Tex Mex pickups on my 50s Road Worn Strat. Here's a review and some in depth relicing tips I did on it:

    http://www.strat-talk.com/threads/2018-fender-road-worn-50s-stratocaster-review-relic-tips.499873/

    Don't let anyone dissuade you because they "just don't get" the Road Worn thing. The ones that "do get it" seem to love theirs! I admit that it took a little extra work, but I can honestly say I love mine now.

    Furthermore, I actually like the wear mark on the white guitars better for some reason, so that wouldn't be an issue for me.

    As far as fret wear is concerned, I'm sure the frets will be fine on any of the models you listed.

    And, contrary to the insinuation that the urethane neck is a downside, I found it to be an advantage when I had to clear coat the fretboard relic job I did (as outlined in my thread) since I wanted keep the satin finish but did not want to risk any incompatibilities. Over a month later and there are no signs of any problems so far. Either way, it's still the smoothest, fastest neck I've got by a long shot and I love that as well.

    But, as others have mentioned, not everyone likes the fretboard radius or truss rod adjustment at the heel on the vintage style necks - although I noticed that they did add a little notch to access it on the 60s Road Worn. Anyone know if that gives decent access for truss rod adjustments or not?

    Anyway... Good Luck @qjenks23!


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