Instruments: Used or New & Why.

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  1. Dik Ellis

    Dik Ellis Strat-Talk Member

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    I have been fortunate to have gotten all but 2 of my guitars new. I get to break them in, my way. The 2 used were both SG's. One I wish I still had, the other I couldn't get rid of fast enough.
     
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    ryunker Senior Stratmaster

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    I have purchased many in the past close to a decade, new is by far the way to go, yes I have a few used, but very few.

    Last weekend I went to "music go round" in Kenosha as all of my gear is at the new home 600 miles away, there they had a wide variety, but beat to **** selection, median price around $750 for electrics. Mind you I had a budget of like $1,500 for a guitar - nothing there condition wise was acceptable in any form. Came back home, went to the local GC and found this amazing Schecter new for $250. Love new, and use to full extent factory warranties. WIN_20211015_19_11_55_Pro.jpg Yes another "for the love of bursts"
     
  3. JB74

    JB74 Senior Stratmaster

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    No preference for new or used, It depends on what I am looking for.

    With synths dust is the enemy, so I usually make a pretty rapid exclusion for partially functional dusty gear, because a dusty synth means nothing but problems to follow.

    Guitars - meh no players jam on the fretboard is absolutely mandatory. If your instrument is grubby, it says so are you... in which case, someone else will enjoy it and I'm not cleaning up your filth.

    I purchase an instrument on individual merit.

    Does not matter if used, just has to feel good and sound good. I also prefer well-looked after instruments and not the artificially 'enhanced' aged garbage that pollutes the online classified ads as 'pretenders' of authentic age.

    Any dings dents or chips I intend to be responsible for, and I am never happy when it happens either.

    The core values are important. playability, sound. condition.

    It's absolutely personal preference. everyone is different.
     
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  4. StratMike10

    StratMike10 Dr. Stratster Silver Member

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    Never new. I like to tinker, so for me it’s a natural thing to spend way less money for a really nice used instrument, and set or modify it to my liking. A few scratches, honest wear, or tiny blemishes don’t bother me at all, so I’m happy to pocket the very large discount that comes with them. Almost every Strat I ever owned started its life as used parts. I never ever bought a new Gibson, the difference between MSRP and the cost of a gently used instrument can buy you groceries for a couple months.
     
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  5. Guitdog44

    Guitdog44 New Member!

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    I've only purchased one new guitar in my life. A 1971 epiphone acoustic made in Japan. I still have it! Nice guitar. I'm not really an acoustic guy so it has a set of boomer 10s on it. Lol
    I buy used guitars, renew them, and set them up the way I like them! There is something satisfying about fixer upper that turns out great!
    Put the cost savings into something else that you like!
     
  6. Scott Baxendale

    Scott Baxendale Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    I’m pretty adamant about used guitars over new guitars.

    For several reasons, first there are enough good used guitars in the world for every serious guitar player to have over a dozen. Secondly, global warming is real and serious and buying new guitars contributes to that much more than buying used guitars. New factories like Gibson and Fender make WAY WAY too many new guitars which is an environmental catastrophe. Thirdly, I’ve perfected a remanufacturing process that recycles the wood from old guitars into structural new guitars without using up any endangered woods or using chemical finishes made from environmentally bad solvents and plastics. It’s almost criminal, in my mind, for these big manufacturing companies to adopt this corporate mentality that says: “unless this quarter sales don’t beat last quarters by at least 10-20% then we are failing”. This is unsustainable over the long haul and really does a disservice to the guitar world. Fender could have easily stayed a small factory in California with 200 employees cranking out american made guitars and Gibson could have done the same in Kalamazoo but unfortunately for all of us they didn’t. On the other hand, Hofner has stayed small where a New German made Hofner bass is made exactly the same way they were in 1963 by the offspring of the builders back then, with non endangered woods harvested from sustainable forests.

    I think boutique builders should continue to build new guitars but should focus on reclaimed materials for their instruments. I still build some new guitars but I only use endangered woods that I bought in the 1990’s or earlier or reclaimed woods. I still have some Brazilian rosewood I’ve had since the 1980’s and my Indian rosewood stash is over 50 years old.
     
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  7. CigBurn

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    Bought a couple new early on but never kept them.

    My process was to see something I liked the looks of, then just build it. That way I get every bit of what I wanted from the guitar. The only thing that ever changes anymore are necks. But even there I'm about as happy now as I ever expect to get with how my guitars feel and sound.

    So it's rare anymore that I see one and get gassy.
     
  8. ibdrkn1

    ibdrkn1 Senior Stratmaster

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    It's possible that the last new guitar I bought was in 2004. As a guitar addict I go through guitars frequently so buying new doesn't make financial sense. I also mod almost everything. None of the new guitars I've ever bought were just the way I want them from factory.

    Even if I ordered something from the Custom Shop it would only be a matter of time till I either wanted to mod or sell it for something new.
     
  9. nosmo

    nosmo Strat-O-Master Gold Supporting Member

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    Well, I just last week put another used Squier on lay-away at GC. It has some "patina" and the strings are rusty and the neck is dirty but everything works, and it was $67, plays the same as the new ones. I'll spend a couple or three hours cleaning and setting it up and new strings, and spend what I saved for beer and sox.

    I like resurrecting older stuff.

    I once bought a brand-new 2007 Toyota Tacoma truck and it was the worst disappointment I have ever driven, traded it after 5 months and 6000 miles for a used GMC truck, which I love.
     
  10. Boubou

    Boubou Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    You got the wrong one, I bought a 2006 Tacoma, drove it for 13 years, in those 13 years I put as much in repairs as I would put in any of my previous cars in 1 year.
    I do buy my guitars new though. Have nothing against used, the choice is limited around here, I don’t want to deal with people plus a strat goes from $300 to $2000 with the difference not being that clear, so I want to know what I am buying, I buy new.
     
  11. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Blooze daddy Silver Member

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    nosmo Strat-O-Master Gold Supporting Member

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    You got that right! My previous Toyota truck was a 1990 4x4 X-cab, bought in 1994 with 23,000 miles, kept it until it hd 368,000. Best vehicle I ever had.
     
  13. StratLover66

    StratLover66 Strat-Talker

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    Almost exclusively used. The discount over new is just too much to ignore. I can fix just about anything on a guitar and setups are a breeze, so I never worry about any of that. So long as there are no major structural issues, I can usually save 30-60% over new prices and end up with a guitar that's pretty much as good, if not better, than new. The last new guitar I bought was horribly set up, so I don't find a lot of value there. Some of the used prices are insane, so it really adds so much more joy to the purchase. Getting a Sherwood Green '62 AVRI Strat for $599 makes the purchase a LOT more fun and interesting to me. (or a Fender Select Strat for $899, or a MiM Fender Classic 70s Strat for $274.99....the list goes on....).
     
  14. LeicaBoss

    LeicaBoss Senior Stratmaster

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    I didn't know my take on this until looking at my lineup.

    4 electrics:
    • '59 AVRI Strat. Bought in parts from Stratosphere and assembled
    • R8. Used
    • PRS Cu 24. Used
    • '66 Tele. 13 years older than I am. Used
    3 acoustics... All new. I feel like with an acoustic I want to be the one to break it in. It makes no sense but that's where I land