Intonation

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  1. FireFunkRevival

    FireFunkRevival Strat-O-Master

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    So you tune and check the second note and then tighten for sharp and loosen for flat???
     
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    Kestrel Strat-Talker Silver Member

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  3. Bob Spumoni

    Bob Spumoni Senior Stratmaster

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    You get the 12th-fret octave and the 12th fret harmonic in sync.
     
  4. FireFunkRevival

    FireFunkRevival Strat-O-Master

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    Ty
     
  5. rolandson

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    As Bob said.
    And...
    If it's sharp, make the string longer
    Flat, shorter.
     
  6. Tsjackson

    Tsjackson Senior Stratmaster

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    I’ve always done open string and fretted 12th, adjust to match
     
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    There's nothing special about the 12th fret.

    forget using harmonics, there's no reason to use them is you have a tuner.

    If the fretted note is sharp, you must adjust the saddle away from the nut (by turning the screw clockwise).
    If the fretted note is flat, you must adjust the saddle towards the nut (by turning the screw counter-clockwise).


    here's how I intonate:

    tune open string to pitch
    fret B chord at the 7th fret
    as you're fretting the chord, check/set pitch of string
    repeat
     
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  8. Antstrat

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    Learned this from the forum and it works.

    Starting with low E.

    Tune the open string.

    Then fret the 12th, if flat turn the screw counter clockwise, this moves the saddle forward.

    If sharp turn the screw clockwise, this moves the saddle back.

    Repeat on the rest of the strings.
     
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  9. ThreeChordWonder

    ThreeChordWonder Senior Stratmaster

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    And if your notes are sharp in between, especially at the first few frets, you either need to lower your action or you need a nut job... 02A830520000044D-0-image-m-69_1494028929757.jpg
     
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  10. Bob Spumoni

    Bob Spumoni Senior Stratmaster

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    Here's hoping you do not contemplate a career in technical writing.
     
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  11. rake6978

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    I always tune the open strings. (all of them to get proper neck tension)
    Then check the open tuning against the 12th fret tuning. as said earlier,
    if the 12th is sharp then adjust the saddle to lengthen the string and reverse
    for a flat 12th. I always hold the guitar in the playing position when intonating.
    Let's just call it eliminating any variables.
     
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    Most of the fails I see in intonation issues are high nut slots. The string needs to just clear the first fret. Any higher and the first few frets will pull sharp.
     
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    I find they also play "stiff" with high nut action
     
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    I put a capo on the third fret , takes the nut out. Use the 15 Th for intonation. Or 5 and 17
     
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    Sure they will, especially below the 5th fret.
     
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  16. Jmart1212

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    I fret the notes at the 12th too. I also use the same finger with about the same amount of pressure as well. Also, like others have been saying, intonation should be the last thing as the nut, string height, pickup height, and neck relief can all slightly affect it. Good luck
     
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    My 2 bits if it hasn't already been said, lightly touch the string after you do the harmonic, I touch it just enough to sound a note, other wise it's always sharp.
     
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    ^ The only caveat I would put on that is that if you have a grip that'll crack walnuts, you might want to tune a little flat to compensate, or you'll have to live with all the fretted notes being sharp.
     
  19. Wound_Up

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    I saw the most ignorant thing in the Fender Play Facebook group earlier. Somebody said something about using a Snark tuner for intonation and another guy replied that you don't even use them for that. Intonation is done by pickup heigh and setup and neck relief and this and that. But using a tuner? No way. He acted as if someone said you use a screwdriver to hammer nails smh. I told the dude it's obvious he doesn't do it himself going by his comment. I see the stupidest comments in those groups. A majority of them shouldn't even be giving others advice but they think they're the next SRV & Rene Martinez in one so you can't tell them Nothin.


    You can be out of tune using the harmonic and not ever realize it. Why not just use a tuner?

    I check all over the neck after checking the 12th. I'll check a few in the first 12 and then a few more in the last 9/10/12 frets
     
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  20. The_Whale

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    The is absolutely no reason to use a harmonic if one has a tuner.

    And there is nothing special about the 12th fret.
     
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