Is it normal to have a little fretbuzz?

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  1. AxemanVR

    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Silver Member

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    Don't forget the tremolo height if you're floating it. There's definitely a bit of a juggling act going on with a bridge that can move up and down.

    Which brings up another point: All the strings must be tuned precisely to their proper pitch - especially on a typical tremolo equipped guitar - or the rest of the setup is a waste of time (even more so if planning on switching to alternate or drop tunings, etc).

    Rechecking and readjusting the tuning after every tweak is a must.


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  2. 33db

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    If your neck looks OK it's probably the player, are you really digging in with the pick? Does it buzz when you play as lightly as you can? Light touch light pick.
     
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    As long as it isn't amplified it's not a problem, in my book.
    If it affects your sound, you need to fix it. But for some guitars that may mean either a lot of work (fret levelling etc) or investments (to have it fixed). Or a setup that you dislike playing even more.
    So, in my opinion there's a fine line between acceptable and unacceptable.

    Hit any reasonably well set up strat with a 3mm pick and a Townsend like windmill gesture and there is bound to be some fret buzzing.
     
  4. jtees4

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    If I hear fret buzz, I simply turn the distortion up until I no longer hear it (and yes, I am joking). BUT I do usually have a "slight" amount of buzz on my A and Low E, but not enough to be heard thru an amp...I like super low action AND I have finger issues that makes super low action easier on me. (Old man alert) (and get off my lawn) ;)
     
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    I'm sorry, but string buzz equals a loss of sustain to me, and sustain is a very important part of what makes a guitar truly great in my book - and I especially love hearing my guitar strings gloriously ringing out unabated by any incidental fret contact!

    Of course, as mentioned earlier, how hard someone hits the strings matters (i.e: playing with finesse) and like they say "It's all in the fingers" right? So, barring an obnoxiously heavy picking hand, any unusual amount of string buzz can be effectively dialed out as far as I'm concerned.

    Anyway, if string buzz is considered to be normal, then I'm perfectly happy being an outlier...



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  6. StummerJoe

    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    Get a new luthier.
     
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    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Unplugged, buzz is normal.
    If you can hear it through your amp, it needs to be corrected.

    Is it fret buzz, or "sitar" from the nut or saddles?
     
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    Yeah, that needs fixing then.
     
  9. rockon1

    rockon1 Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    Well in a way it (trussrod/relief) does affect higher up. The geometry ( fretted break angle) is better higher up with less relief given the same measured string height.
     
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  10. Hal Nico

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    Non of my guitars have Fret-Buzz. I would not trust your, "Luthier" and a true Luthier can make an acoustic instrument from scratch and have had a recognized apprenticeship.

    Good read here,

    https://www.fender.com/articles/how-to/buzz-off-how-to-deal-with-fret-buzz

    HTH:)
     
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    Rodrigoow Strat-Talk Member

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    TRAIN. Yes I know that, I maxed the saddles bc I was not intending to adjust the rod
     
  12. StummerJoe

    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    If it is buzz through the amp did you explain that to your tech? That is signs of a problem, be it relief, fret level, or set up.
     
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    I do my own fret levelling and dressing and always slope the last few frets. Makes quite a difference.
     
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    All guitars will buzz the strings against the frets if you really bang on the strings. If you try to eliminate every last trace of buzz you'll drive yourself crazy. But it's reasonable to insist on no buzz during normal playing, and we all should insist on no notes choking out.

    People with a very light touch on the picking hand can get away with very low action. People who play bombastic rhythm guitar probably want the action higher to avoid buzz.
     
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    A little fret buzz can be personal preference... in particular if you have a rounder fret-board profile and extremely low action. This is one reason high-radius boards (16" and above) and/or compound radius fretboards are popular for that style of playing.

    What's causing the buzz will depends on which strings and frets are buzzing:

    - If there is buzz across all strings across the same cluster of frets, then it's a truss rod setting.
    - Buzz at the mid frets means not enough relief.
    - Buzz at the high frets means can mean not enough relief, too much relief, bridge too low, or neck angle poor.
    - Buzz at the low frets is possibly a nut-cut issue.
    - If there is buzz on one string across a number of consecutive frets but the neighbouring strings are ok, raise the bridge saddle slightly
    - If there is buzz on one fret on one or more adjacent strings, that fret needs levelling.
    - If there is buzz everywhere, you have a Boss Metalzone.

    A good place to start is here:
    https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us...-do-I-set-up-my-Stratocaster-guitar-properly-
     
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    Miotch Senior Stratmaster

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    You said down near the nut. Do you have the buzz on open strings?
     
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    frankismint Strat-Talk Member

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    recently got two ultra's that I had to return that had some fret buzz even after a setup.
    Oddly enough, the AP2 that replaced it, has zero buzz and did not require a setup.
     
  18. CyFan4036

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    Sounds like you need a truss rod adjustment first. THEN set the saddles.
     
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    ThebiggestJerk Senior Stratmaster

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    How much sustain does one actually need. 3s, 5s, 6s max or like a minute or 30m???
     
  20. AxemanVR

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    Freely ringing sustain... unimpeded sustain... soaring sustain.

    It’s not necessarily the length of time but the “quality” of the said sustain.

    Unless it’s purposely being used for a specific effect, a buzzy string is a disruption not a feature...



     
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