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Is this American Vintage 57 reissue

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  1. Fahmi

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  2. dueducs

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    With the pix you've supplied, it is impossible to say, but I am pretty sure I checked this one out on eBay or Reverb (can't remember which), and I saw nothing to suggest it wasn't genuine.
    It's really a beautiful body in great condition as I recall.
     
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    I added eBay link to the post
     
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    I've purchased from that buyer before. I had my eye on a 1989 AV 57 body he had. He absolutely does not talk about price, even when an item doesn't sell two or three times. In fact, last week I noticed he had another body auction that ended without sale. He relisted and added another $10 to the price for some reason.
    Also, he doesn't answer questions very well about his merchandise, at least not in my experience.
    Regardless, that body looks great and I still see nothing to suggest it is not genuine... and that seems a good price to me.
     
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    I agree, he didn’t reply to my question and offer.
    Thank you!
     
  6. Fahmi

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    what do you recommend for the bridge? The one I’m finding seems like made in Mexico part number 099-2049-000
     
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    Seller has a 99.4 rating out of 32000 sales/buys. Pretty good rating. that's usually what I look at.
     
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    The seller may have the tremolo (and other parts) that came from that body, if that interests you. Otherwise any of the American Vintage tremolos will work and that part number you gave looks correct

    here are a couple ...
    http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...0001&campid=5338148356&icep_item=372952177845

    http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...0001&campid=5338148356&icep_item=223680825035
     
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    Just FYI there is nothing special about the 57/62 bodies. If you like the paint job or grain, great. But as far as a 57 being different from a 54 or 62 or whatever - nope - the only difference was the pickguard. 1 vs 3 ply. It's not "authentic" by any means.
     
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    Well, there is the addition of the ledge in the control cavity of the 62s to accept an extra pickguard screw.
     
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    Would you please educate me on this, what do you mean by it is not “authentic” by any means? Which one considered authentic? and what the factors that determines authenticity? I’m just learning
     
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    in the real bodies of 1957 yes, not the reissues that i know of. The ledge is there regardless of screw count or which pickguard is used. Fender didn't retool just for 1 body
     
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    First off, the originals were hand shaped so no 2 are exactly the same. Second, the routing changed from the 50's to the 60s, and third the reissue bodies are just production line bodies that are painted certain colors for certain models. Meaning the 57 reissue was available in a 2 tone sunburst as seen here, the 62 reissue was painted 3 tone sunburst - but the wood itself was not different in any way in the reissue. But, what I meant by "authentic" is a real 1957 body would be routed differently than a 1962 body.

    Which all boils down to this - if you want a 57 reissue LOOK, you might as well buy a Jimmie Vaughan body in 2 tone sunburst if you want to save some money. The biggest difference there is the import Fender/Squiers have the narrow saddles (same as american standard) instead of the old wide style. That's pretty much it. Unless you are determined to have an american made body, there's nothing special about it, was the major point of my post.

    For the record after owning a couple 57 reissues, I much prefer the Squier Classic Vibe 50s. I think it's a superior instrument in materials, build quality and tone. The American reissue offers a lacquer top coat, and the neck profile is thicker (also painted in lacquer, but on the neck there is no urethane under it) and it has a 7.25" radius instead of the better 9.5" radius of the Squier. These are all opinions and personal preferences, of course.

    The best part of the American reissue is the tweed case. That's really the only thing I can find they offer better than the imports.
     
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    That body the op is looking at has no ledge in it which is era correct for a 57 ? Not sure what your saying really.
     
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    From the beginning of the AVRI series in 1982 there were two bodies.
    One for the AVRI '57 without the shoulder, these used the 8 hole '50s style pickguard.
    Another for the AVRI '62 that had the cavity shoulder to accommodate post-1959 11 hole pickguards.
     
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    Deleted. Basically a repeat of post #15
     
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