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Is this SRV Strat Brazilian Rosewood or Pau Ferro?

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  1. TomH8

    TomH8 Senior Stratmaster

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    Wondering if this could be Brazilian Rosewood as it is a very early serial number (SE 91xxxx). Seller says it is Brazilian, but of course they would say that. I know the saddles and bridge pickup aren't original. I have my doubts. Here are the pics I have:

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    Did you buy this guitar through ebay, if so send it back recorded delivery.

    Get another opinion first though in a shop, hard to tell.
     
  3. Strat-Slinger

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    hard to tell... pau ferro... from what I've seen of it (not a whole heck of a lot, mind you) appears a bit more like an "ebony"... more solid/dark without so much streak in it... rosewood, yeah... ususally has some streak to it a more f that red-ish hue that looks like the board in the pics you posted...

    I think the earliest "SRV" models did use rosewood before moving to pau ferro for the board... but, I'm not positive about that...
     
  4. TomH8

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    I haven't bought the guitar yet. Thinking about it. For sale locally.
     
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    I could be totally wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Brazilian on the early SRV Strats is a myth.
     
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    If I'm reading the serial# correct... that guitar is a "Signature Model" from 1989... but... the SRV strat didn't emerge until '92 or something like that...
     
  7. TomH8

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    I actually called fender yesterday with the serial number. And he said it dates too far back for their system, but he actually had a discussion with a guy from the custom shop not long ago and confirmed to me that the first batch of srv's from 92 had Brazilian rosewood.
     
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  8. guitarman1984

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    What's the cosmetic difference of Brazilian rosewood versus other kinds?
     
  9. Strat-Slinger

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    Alright...so.. you spoke w/ Fender yesterday and got the info that.. indeed... the serial# pre-dates an actual SRV model... then you post out here today asking about the guitar... OK.....
    must have something to do with the date....:whistling:
     
  10. TomH8

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    No no. Fender doesn't keep records of any guitars pre 93 ish. If you called them about an American standard strat with a 1992 date they would have no info for you. That's what I meant.
     
  11. TomH8

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    Reading online they used a bunch of leftover decals for sig strats from 92-94. Same se9's can be found in claptons from the early 90s too.
     
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    That is correct; it is another known Fender serial number anomaly. What it appears that Fender did was to print up a completely separate run of "SE9xxxxx" serial number decals for the artist signature models so they were still using them in 1992 when both the SRV and the Sambora models were released. Things kind of normalize around 1994 or so; by then both the "regular" series and the Artist series would have the same decade and year part of the their serial number - but of course the Artist models had the additional "S" prefix.

    In 2010 Fender stopped using the "S" first letter on the Artist models (and the "D" on American Deluxe models); now all series that use a headstock serial number decal use the same format.
     
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    It looks like rosewood. Pau Ferro has a lighter / reddish colour.
     
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    All the Pau Ferro that I've ever seen is lighter and more reddish, as lonegroover stated.

    That board looks like Rosewood to me
     
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    I wouldn't question the originally of the neck given the pickups aren't original. That's an easy swap.
    It does look like rosewood and I think the pores are very small (that could be Brazilian then).

    Not that I want to derail the conversation: Sadly, this reminds me that the Amazon's lumbers were largely exploited and greedy people devastated acres and acres of our beautiful Amazon rainforest. Even though BRA rosewood is now illegal, people still take lumber out of there and the forest is still getting smaller year over year.
     
  16. TomH8

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    Thanks so far guys. Appears to be leaning rosewood so far.
     
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    I third this.

    Stratmasters. yes I agree Pau Ferro is redish and lighter in genral.

    I vote RW
     
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    It's Pao Ferro...
     
  19. TomH8

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    Can you elaborate please
     
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    IMG_0515.JPG IMG_0515.JPG IMG_0516.JPG IMG_0517.JPG IMG_0518.JPG IMG_1427.JPG The lines are too straight. It's not glossy. It is darker then most Pao Ferro... this is mine. Bought new Spring of 92' from Fender Diamond dealer. It's the only one I've ever seen except in a few pictures.
     
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