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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    I decided to put some Ernie Ball Slinky top and heavy bottom strings on my Strat but the tension I assume has pulled the bridge forward so I can't use the Trem/wammy bar as it's fully forward. I've put a block off wood in to help a bit, so I'm wondering is there a way to fix this or are these strings not suitable? I use normally EB Slinky 10s but heard good things about these hybrids so I thought I'd give them a shot.
    Thanks
     
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    anytime you change the gauge of string you will need to make adjustments to recalibrate the guitar.
     
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    What a coincidence, I've literally just finished upgrading an MIM strat from 9s to 10s. What I do is to tune the strings one semitone flat and then tighten the spring retainer screws to bring them up to pitch. You may have to do this a few times. I also use a ruler to measure the distance from spring retainer to the body. For 10s this is about 11.5mm.
     
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    That would depend on the number of springs used and their relative tension. All things are not equal.
     
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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    The spring retainer screw that's the ones in the caverty right? Also would adding extra springs help?
     
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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    I almost did that thought I'd better check first before tightening! Cheers mate
     
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    sjtalon Senior Stratmaster

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    ying and yang, String PULL, needs to be equal SPRING pull.

    If you change the PULL on one end, ya gotta adjust the PULL the other way.

    If a person doesn't jump too far string gauge wise, usually there is plenty of claw
    movement that can be done to compensate whereas three springs can cut it, id est, have the rear of the trem bridge up off the body about 1/16".
     
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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    Yeah I see what you mean! This is my first Strat I've only really had LP guitars but I'm loving the Fender. Anyway i'll make the adjustments by thightning the screws and see how it goes. It's amazing how just the slightest string size increase throws it all out.
     
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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    I want a Tele real bad! But my Fiancé isn't having any of it!! Lol
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    coltpeacemaker Strat-Talk Member

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    Here the poor girl
     

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    It's not only the claw / bridge that needs adjusting, when you go up a string gauge the entire guitar needs a full setup - that's the truss rod/relief, then string/action height, then relief.....
     
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    Really? Maybe I'd be better going back to the EB slinky 10s! Doesn't seem to be worth the hassle! Thanks
     
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    It may, it may not. If it plays ok except the bridge being high, probably not. If something does need adjusting, I'm sure you will notice, string height, intonation etc. These things were much simpler before the internet. :)
     
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    That would cause a serious problem in my house....
     
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    You probably shouldn't assume it was set up right with the 10s either. Setting up a Strat is not too difficult, there are a few straightforward places to adjust. A well set up guitar is a whole lot easier to play.
     
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    Well no matter what gauge you have, a guitar does need a full setup probably at least 2-3 times a year......it's easy to learn how to do on your own and I have some great videos to guide you. Fender also has a setup guide on their website. Even your Les Paul could use some adjustment I bet to get it playing perfectly....
     
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    Whichever string gauge(s) you decide to use a full setup will be needed to allow the guitar to play its best, particularly if you want low action.
    Without the proper setup you might not like the way it plays, and may attribute the playability to the strings rather than the setup.
     
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