JHS makes the Bad Monkey expensive

[StratUp]

Here we go again... JHS did a review of the Bad Monkey a couple days ago. Played it against a half dozen other pedals that cost three to 100 times the cost (Klon) and it matched them (see review of his review, below).

Unfortunately it had the usual effect (which I checked out as I am easily amused): prices that were average $50 are 2x to 3x higher. Ebay and Reverb sold out. I expect they will climb more if anyone lists one.

To his credit, he addressed that expected reaction and said "there are thousands of these out there, just wait a few days before buying one". But I suspect prices will now stay at $130 or more and waiting for lower prices is a couple years out, not a couple days.
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Review of the review: He didn't really do fair evaluations. He showed that you can get "the" same sound from the Monkey. But the fact that you can use the Monkey to overdrive your tube amp and get the same sound you can get with a Klon doesn't mean that a Klon and a Monkey produce the same sounds. It just means that they can match "a" sound. Much the same with his other Monkey comparisons. The Monkey is a cool and worthwhile pedal for some, but it's not the equivalent of all the others he compared it to including the JHS Morning Glory.

 

[dbb541]

Maybe he had 100 monkeys to sell...

 

[the dark sailor]

Maybe he had 100 monkeys to sell...

Well yeah, I believe he had 6 different versions that he "showed" on the video. He's got to have more.

 

[Seamus OReally]

I tried a Bad Monkey. I didn’t like it.

 

[Handsome McClane]

I had one and IMO it was one of the worst pedals I'ver ever had. I thought the coloration was ugly. Sold it about 10 years ago. Trips me out people are into them now.

 

[jvin248]

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That pedal ran at $30 forever and then Phil X talked it up, granted that's how I heard of it and prices jumped to $50-$100 so I'd look every now and then. Looks like a big bump again.

I got a Golden Horse for $25 to cover that Klon...

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[crankmeister]

Jackpot! @amstratnut

Dadocaster sent me a Bad Monkey. Here is a clip.

Its weird because when I uploaded it. It says copyright claim. However, I got the backer from youtube. Scratchin my head! Anywho here is a clip of the Kid Charlemagne solo using the Bad Monkey. I geta kick out of playing it. Thank you Brad! Pic of settings.

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[Zipslack]

Maybe I should sell my OG $30 BM....

 

[Wulfrik]

He (Josh) posted a follow-up and reaction to what's happened today. Worth a read. He's a funny guy. Personally, I can't stand that pedal, I've had a couple of tries with it over the years.

 

[amstratnut]

Jackpot! @amstratnut

Dadocaster sent me a Bad Monkey. Here is a clip.

Its weird because when I uploaded it. It says copyright claim. However, I got the backer from youtube. Scratchin my head! Anywho here is a clip of the Kid Charlemagne solo using the Bad Monkey. I geta kick out of playing it. Thank you Brad! Pic of settings.

strat-talk.com

I offered to send it back if he wants to try to get more money. I dont know if this is a real thing or not. Sometimes hype only lasts while opportunists list high. Then things settle down again. I have no idea what to make of this.

 

[Dadocaster]

I offered to send it back if he wants to try to get more money. I dont know if this is a real thing or not. Sometimes hype only lasts while opportunists list high. Then things settle down again. I have no idea what to make of this.

You touched my monkey. It's yours

 

[Believer7713]

Well yeah, I believe he had 6 different versions that he "showed" on the video. He's got to have more.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that Josh had at least 2 dozen of them. I saw a part of his collection a few years back and it filled two rooms in his factory. From what his employees told me, it was only the start of the entire collection.

 

[amstratnut]

You touched my monkey. It's yours

Oh no I did not!

 

[Butcher of Strats]

Josh just wants the world to be talking about Josh.
He shakes the bag of treats.
The internet comes running!

 

[Swamp_Thang]

I nearly bought one for $50 usd last year.

 

[the dark sailor]

It wouldn't surprise me to see that Josh had at least 2 dozen of them. I saw a part of his collection a few years back and it filled two rooms in his factory. From what his employees told me, it was only the start of the entire collection.

Jeez....guy loves pedals.

 

[Believer7713]

Jeez....guy loves pedals.

Yeah, he does. Makes sense though, it is how he makes his living. It started from playing with a broken pedal that he had and he looked at it and decided to experiment with it once he got it working. Then someone else asked him to do the same mods to his pedal. Started in a small apartment in Grandview, a municipality of the greater KCMO area. JHS never moved out of Grandview either and their newest facility is about a mile from the first building. They also are about a 12 minute drive from my house.
Josh is on record for saying that there is no special formula or anything that makes a pedal fantastic. They are all just components populated into a circuit and they all can be replicated no matter what anyone thinks. He has also said, recently, that he has been torn about making the JHS Klone again because he wants to try to bring the price of the old ones back down since they have gotten "ridiculously priced" (his words) as well. He also wants to just make it again since the KTR is no longer in production again. He promised Bill that he would quit if Bill started production again and when the KTR came out he did quit. But it was kept kind of ambiguous because he fulfilled his promise and now there is no more KTR or Centaur and he thinks it is a fantastic circuit that shouldn't be kept from the masses.
Also, if I am not mistaking, he has the #1 production model Centaur in his collection. He put it up for sale a few years back for $500,000 as a joke because of the used prices being so high. In the listing he even said he would hand deliver it to your house.

JHS Pedals owner Josh Scott is selling the first-ever Klon Centaur for $500,000

“Buy it or don't, I don't really care,” Scott says

www.guitarworld.com

 

[the dark sailor]

Yeah, he does. Makes sense though, it is how he makes his living. It started from playing with a broken pedal that he had and he looked at it and decided to experiment with it once he got it working. Then someone else asked him to do the same mods to his pedal. Started in a small apartment in Grandview, a municipality of the greater KCMO area. JHS never moved out of Grandview either and their newest facility is about a mile from the first building. They also are about a 12 minute drive from my house.
Josh is on record for saying that there is no special formula or anything that makes a pedal fantastic. They are all just components populated into a circuit and they all can be replicated no matter what anyone thinks. He has also said, recently, that he has been torn about making the JHS Klone again because he wants to try to bring the price of the old ones back down since they have gotten "ridiculously priced" (his words) as well. He also wants to just make it again since the KTR is no longer in production again. He promised Bill that he would quit if Bill started production again and when the KTR came out he did quit. But it was kept kind of ambiguous because he fulfilled his promise and now there is no more KTR or Centaur and he thinks it is a fantastic circuit that shouldn't be kept from the masses.
Also, if I am not mistaking, he has the #1 production model Centaur in his collection. He put it up for sale a few years back for $500,000 as a joke because of the used prices being so high. In the listing he even said he would hand deliver it to your house.

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Yeah, he does. Makes sense though, it is how he makes his living. It started from playing with a broken pedal that he had and he looked at it and decided to experiment with it once he got it working. Then someone else asked him to do the same mods to his pedal. Started in a small apartment in Grandview, a municipality of the greater KCMO area. JHS never moved out of Grandview either and their newest facility is about a mile from the first building. They also are about a 12 minute drive from my house.
Josh is on record for saying that there is no special formula or anything that makes a pedal fantastic. They are all just components populated into a circuit and they all can be replicated no matter what anyone thinks. He has also said, recently, that he has been torn about making the JHS Klone again because he wants to try to bring the price of the old ones back down since they have gotten "ridiculously priced" (his words) as well. He also wants to just make it again since the KTR is no longer in production again. He promised Bill that he would quit if Bill started production again and when the KTR came out he did quit. But it was kept kind of ambiguous because he fulfilled his promise and now there is no more KTR or Centaur and he thinks it is a fantastic circuit that shouldn't be kept from the masses.
Also, if I am not mistaking, he has the #1 production model Centaur in his collection. He put it up for sale a few years back for $500,000 as a joke because of the used prices being so high. In the listing he even said he would hand deliver it to your house.

JHS Pedals owner Josh Scott is selling the first-ever Klon Centaur for $500,000

“Buy it or don't, I don't really care,” Scott says

www.guitarworld.com

Yeah I know his story. Been following for some time now. Very humble beginnings.

 

[PCollen]

Here we go again... JHS did a review of the Bad Monkey a couple days ago. Played it against a half dozen other pedals that cost three to 100 times the cost (Klon) and it matched them (see review of his review, below).

Unfortunately it had the usual effect (which I checked out as I am easily amused): prices that were average $50 are 2x to 3x higher. Ebay and Reverb sold out. I expect they will climb more if anyone lists one.

To his credit, he addressed that expected reaction and said "there are thousands of these out there, just wait a few days before buying one". But I suspect prices will now stay at $130 or more and waiting for lower prices is a couple years out, not a couple days.
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Review of the review: He didn't really do fair evaluations. He showed that you can get "the" same sound from the Monkey. But the fact that you can use the Monkey to overdrive your tube amp and get the same sound you can get with a Klon doesn't mean that a Klon and a Monkey produce the same sounds. It just means that they can match "a" sound. Much the same with his other Monkey comparisons. The Monkey is a cool and worthwhile pedal for some, but it's not the equivalent of all the others he compared it to including the JHS Morning Glory.

I would like to see the JHS Bad Monkey compared against one of the better Chinese Klon clones available for under $45 incl. shipping and taxes, of which I have two.

 

[somebodyelseuk]

Here we go again... JHS did a review of the Bad Monkey a couple days ago. Played it against a half dozen other pedals that cost three to 100 times the cost (Klon) and it matched them (see review of his review, below).

Unfortunately it had the usual effect (which I checked out as I am easily amused): prices that were average $50 are 2x to 3x higher. Ebay and Reverb sold out. I expect they will climb more if anyone lists one.

To his credit, he addressed that expected reaction and said "there are thousands of these out there, just wait a few days before buying one". But I suspect prices will now stay at $130 or more and waiting for lower prices is a couple years out, not a couple days.
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Review of the review: He didn't really do fair evaluations. He showed that you can get "the" same sound from the Monkey. But the fact that you can use the Monkey to overdrive your tube amp and get the same sound you can get with a Klon doesn't mean that a Klon and a Monkey produce the same sounds. It just means that they can match "a" sound. Much the same with his other Monkey comparisons. The Monkey is a cool and worthwhile pedal for some, but it's not the equivalent of all the others he compared it to including the JHS Morning Glory.

No, he proved that guitarists are idiots.
He made the other pedals sound like a Bad Monkey - the BMs settings don't change throughout the video.
JHS didn't push the prices up. Dumbass guitarists did.