Lets see what it goes for 57 strat.

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Stratwrangler, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Stratwrangler

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    Feels, sounds and plays great. That's why he hasn't played it in 30 years. :confused:
     
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    No-reserve "preCBS" strats seldom sell for less than the buyer wants. They sell off auction, get pulled in the closing hours because the bidding isn't high enough, relisted due to a "non-payer."

    The fact that anyone would bid $3300 (assuming it's a genuine bid) based on the photos provided is a mystery. Sometimes I wonder what people would bid if I put up a listing with no photos whatsoever, and just described the awesome, all original preCBS strat I'm selling....

    No mention of non-original bridge saddles? No under the guard shots?

    "Internal wiring needed to be resoldered recently." Really? It needed to be??

    "Non-vintage case." Actually, it is a vintage case, just not a 57 vintage case.

    This listing needs work!
     
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    You should try it dont forget to include words like Real and all original apart from the bits that aren't .

    Its a terrible listing and makes you wonder whats lurking inside , plus as some one else said you haven't played it in 30yrs ? : Neck looks ok rest of it could be anything from those picks and ive never seen klusons that rusty have you ? Look like been left in salt water certainly cant see if there single lines or what.
     
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    STill at 3.300 and two bids .
     
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    The seller has added a couple of pics which point in the right direction, nothing too conclusive though. There's no paint in the neck pocket, so the guitar is - unsurprisingly - a refin. FWIW the undersides of the pickups as well as cloth wiring look OK, and the PU windings have the correct copper colour; the A magnet of the middle PU appears to have been pushed up though and a rubber "doughnut" replaced with a spring on the bridge pickup (not an unusual mod in the latter case...). It seems to have the original 3 way switch and chicklet capacitor, although it's hard to tell from the photo.
     
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    Cool yeah I emailed him yesterday . Have to have a look.
     
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    Why the “-“ before the serial number ? Is that factory ?
     
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    Not unusual in the 17-25000 serial number range.
     
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    Same here. Did you ask about pot codes (I didn't)?
     
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    If the ground wire on the claw is any indication it still needs to be resoldered.
     
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    Did you watch his demo video?

     
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    $22 shipping seems like a great price.....
     
  14. Stratwrangler

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    No sound on the video when I play it.
     
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    Sound seems to work now. @Stratwrangler

    Guy doing the demo’s a pretty darn good player. Guitar also sounds pretty good to me. But yes that description seems shady, and the saddles look to be from a 70’s strat.

    Edit - Why does it have that extra little route in the neck pocket? I know they did that on 62’s, but did they do that on 57’s as well?


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    I would say that its had a different pick guard on it at some point and the notch is there to access the heel adjustment truss Road , its either a genuine played guitar that's been kept working over the years with replacement parts or it is completely out of parts . Either way I think its all genuine but I would want to see it in person . And it depends what it goes for could be a great players spec pre cbs though.
     
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    Bids raising steadily on it .
    Obvious bits are replacement saddles , nut , string tree , trem arm and new wiring to trem claw and it doesn't look like a refinish looks original Dakota red to my eyes.
    Nice sounding strat. Main bits seem to be there though don't know how easy it would be to clean those tuners up or at least stop the rusting process on them. Shame no pick up route shots though , could be why scratch plate been rewired did it have routing done for different pickups at some point ?.
     
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    Shouldn’t the entirely neckpocket be painted on a 57 Strat? To me it looks like som kind of paintstick been used
     
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    You could be right about that not sure now on such an early one , contours dont look messed with but I will defer on this one to some one more experienced.
     
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    As mentioned a couple of times in this thread, the neck pocket would normally be fully painted in the case of an original finish. Evidence of the nail holes would also be helpful here.

    The back contour looks right for a '57, although the edges should maybe be sharper (i.e. may have been sanded), although it's hard to say for sure in view of the quality of the photos.
     
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