Locking tuners: yes...no?

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  1. grritz

    grritz Still 17 between the ears Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I prefer locking tuners. I've installed them on all my electrics. I've used Fender, Sperzel and Grover brands.
    I like that locking tuners make string changes faster and easier, but I especially like that they give me strong tuning stability.
    In a recent thread, someone mentioned that locking tuners make no difference when it comes to tuning stability. I disagree.
    What's been your experience?
     
  2. ryunker

    ryunker Senior Stratmaster

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    I have two strats, one with fender vintage tuners, the other with fender locking tuners.

    Both guitars have zero stability issues.
     
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    Ronkirn Most Honored Senior Member

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    Yes, if ya like them, No if not... and that's about all there is to it.... However, if no, you must know how to properly wind the string onto the key, you would be surprised how many do not..

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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I've never had any problems with non locking tuners. I took the only set of factory fitted lockers I had off and replaced them with a vintage slotted set at the first opportunity.
     
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    Believer7713 The Pink Bunny Frankenstein Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I like them on my guitars too. I have used Fender, Sperzel, Schaller, cheap no name brand without issue too. My favorite, however, are Planet Waves Auto Trim lockers that cut the strings for you.
    I do find that for heavy trem use and big bends yhere is better stability on the wound strings but not so much difference on plain strings.
     
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    I got Fender locking on both my guitars. I like 'em.
     
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    No difference in stability (when stringing through non locking tuner then wrapping once over the string) but big difference in convenience.

    Yes, I like locking tuners.
     
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    Malurkey Senior Stratmaster

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    ^^^ This for me as well.

    Although my I have regular non-locking tuners rather than vintage ones. :thumb:
     
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    my tele with the split tuners that do not lock hold tune as well as my expensive grover lockers and my 1st version prs winged lockers.

    i will never "upgrade" my tuners again.
     
  10. nickmsmith

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    Are locking tuners bad? Absolutely not.

    Is the supposed stability increase enough to be worth the additional cost and effort of installation? Not to me.

    I’ve found no difference in performance between the types, and I’ve really never encountered any bad tuner on a squier or above, unless the tuner was compromised or broken.
     
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    nadzab Play Don't Worry Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I have a couple Gibsons that came with them, and they're fine. I'm not going to replace them with standard tuners, nor am I going to retrofit any of my other guitars with lockers.
     
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    Locking tuners offer faster string changes. If there are tuning stability issues with other types of machine heads, I would consider trying other wrapping techniques. If the guitar comes with them, it's fine. But I actually prefer Fender vintage tuners
     
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    I like the convenience of locking tuners that were included on my Elite.

    I upgraded tuners on my LPC to (non-locking) 18:1 for "accuracy". Works for me and they dropped right in.

    I upgraded my 78 hardtail tuners to Schallers the day I bought it new (along with pickguard). Kinda regret the extra holes for the tuners but they work and I still have the originals if I ever have to sell.

    Not a fan of split tuners (EC) but I've gotten used to them.

    My Pacer Imperial has an FR with locking nut and tuning is super easy and solid.
     
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    Can’t say I’ve had tuning stability difficulties with any decent tuners but, for me, lockers are a must have just for the convenience.
     
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    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    As a matter of interest, why?
     
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    Because they were crap. It took me as long to change one string on the lockers as a whole set on my other Strats.
     
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    Split vintage tuners are the best by a mile to me.

    Winding around the post locks the string. I don't see what more is needed.
     
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    If you have normal tuners, all the wraps around the posts will gradually stretch in causing slight instability over time, with locking tuners depending how you string them you only have up to a 3/4 wrap and this will stretch in as you do your stretching after restringing, so yes they do give better stability once stretched in. If you are a rare one that wants to detune to a chord you will have to give it a bit of extra slack when stringing.
     
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    I've got locking tuners on 5 of my 6 guitars, and I'd like to upgrade the other if I can find lockers in "cosmo black" to match the Ibanez hardware. I'm not sure they enhance tuning stability much, but for convenience alone I like them. I also don't care for the look of any tuner that doesn't lock, just looks old-fashioned or outdated to me.
     
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  20. grritz

    grritz Still 17 between the ears Strat-Talk Supporter

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    No...I would not be surprised. They say the earth is made up of protons, neutrons and electrons. They forgot morons.