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Low E string sounds "dead"

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  1. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    I have 2 strats with this problem. Both have vintage style bridges.

    When I play the string on any position the sound is not bright as the other strings and dies early too.

    I use Ernie Ball strings, hybrid 0.11-0.54. Could the thicker E string cause this?
     
  2. swanseajack

    swanseajack Strat-O-Master

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    My guess.the bass side of one or more of your pickups is set too high causing the low E problem.
     
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  3. srvwannab

    srvwannab Senior Stratmaster

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    If the string isn't seating all the way in the slot because it's too thick then yes it can sound thud like. Even if it seats all the way in the slot if it's getting pinched it can still vibrate less freely. It needs to be able to lift out of the slot and seat all the way in without pinching.

    As mentioned if the pickup is too close that can damper the vibration as well.
     
  4. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    I thought the same but lowering the pups didn't make any difference. I had a similar problem with a floyd rose before. I replaced the saddles and it sounded ok... but these saddles are new.
     
  5. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    The string is not that thick. It seats perfectly in the saddle (vintage style saddle).

    I was wonderig... that saddle is on its limit, way back to get the right intonation on that string. Maybe the string is angled too steep from the block to the edge of the saddle?


    sorry for any english mistake...
     
  6. srvwannab

    srvwannab Senior Stratmaster

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    sorry I'm referring to the nut slot
     
  7. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    ah ok! It's not the nut, the string sounds like that no matter on what fret I play.
     
  8. ashcastermetal

    ashcastermetal Senior Stratmaster

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    Well I'm taking a guess here but the string may be too low and or your neck relief may be a problem.

    "I view the strat like an acoustic instrument. It's up to you to get the sounds" Y.J.M.
     
  9. srvwannab

    srvwannab Senior Stratmaster

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    Well if it happens on fretted notes and open notes then I agree with ashcastermetal, maybe there's not enough relief for the low e to vibrate without hitting frets in the middle of the neck and maybe the action is too low as well.
     
  10. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    The strings are pretty high on both guitars. I don't like any buzz even unplugged so I set them high. The neck is set right too, with some light relief but no buzz at all.

    This thing is really weird, and happens on both strats. I use the same strings on the other guitars and don't have this problem.
     
  11. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    Well, I can't solve this... I ordered a set of 0.10/0.46 to see what happens.
     
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    stratman in va Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Based on you mentioning 2 strats ....

    Could it be the amp?? Bad set of strings?
     
  13. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    No, I can hear it unplugged too. The strings are brand new ernie balls.
     
  14. MarceloBR

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    I replaced with 0.10/0.46 strings and now it sounds fine.
     
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    stratman in va Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The guy who said the fat string was sticking in the nut must have been right.
     
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  16. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    Not really, the string would sound that way even on fretted notes.
     
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    stratman in va Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Was it dead strings?? Bad string?
     
  18. MarceloBR

    MarceloBR Strat-Talk Member

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    No, they were brand new, in both guitars. Ernie Ball beefy slinky. Now the 10s are ernie ball stainless steel.

    The "dead sound" I described was nothing major. Seems like it was slightly muted, or less bright than the other strings. I just noticed because it is my guitar.
     
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    oh geez... :rolleyes:
     
  20. jrbondy

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    I know it's been a while but did you ever figure out what your problem was? I have a new Fender American Standard with a similar problem that's got me crazy. 6th string from 8th fret up I get a warble, harmonic, Type sound that's very obvious to my ears. Fender said take it to a certified tech, I did & he said it needed a fret level & did it but the sound i hear is still there just slightly less but very different from the other strings, it jumps out to my ears. The tech said it sounds like a Strat & he can't hear it but that's BS, I'm not crazy. I have several other guitars LP, SG, & a Dean Tagliare Z Glide and they don't sound this way to the degree of the Fender Strat. I put new SD P/U's & a Callaham Trem Block, Decked the bridge, even took the PU's out and the sound is there no PU's capo on the first fret. It's disgusting & Fender says pretty much , oh well, guitars are like that sometimes. Any ideas would be great. Thanks
     
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