Low vs Medium vs High action

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  1. StratAlchemist

    StratAlchemist Strat-O-Master

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    I bumped my saddles up last night on a whim, so now I’m at 6/64 low E and 5/64 high E with 6105 Stainless frets and 7.25” radius. I need to go back and check the relief, but I think it was .02” with the feeler gauge.

    So my question is, what is really considered a medium or high action? I’ve seen 5/64 described as medium/ high, what the consensus?
     
  2. Dadocaster

    Dadocaster Dr. Stratster

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    Wouldn't know. I have not measured any parameters in 50 years of guitaring.
     
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  3. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Guy Who Likes to Play Guitar Silver Member

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    High for me is when my fingers tend to slide under the neighboring strings when I bend. Low is when the neighboring strings bunch up and try to slip under my finger when I bend.

    0.020" is double the Fender relief spec, by the way. Maybe you like it that way, but watch for buzzing at the high frets.
     
  4. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Dr. Stratster

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    Relief of .020"? If so that's double what it should be.....7.25" should normally be like .008" to .012" - in my experience anyway....

    I have my action set to just a hair under 5/64" across all 6 strings - I use a Canadian 1 dollar 'Loonie' coin, which is 1.95mm thick....at 12th fret....
     
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  5. StratAlchemist

    StratAlchemist Strat-O-Master

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    Probably need a seasonable relief tightening, love summer humidity! The .02” might be double, but she sure plays nice.
     
  6. rolandson

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    The approach I've used throughout my 50 years of guitar, 30+ professionally...

    Put away the rulers and play what feels good.
     
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    Set it so it plays to your liking...then play.

    Sounds familiar.:D
     
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  8. Triple Jim

    Triple Jim Guy Who Likes to Play Guitar Silver Member

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    Rising humidity normally does the same thing as tightening the truss rod... it reduces relief.
     
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    Ummmm yep. It’s what I do.
     
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    Good to know, I had it backwards.
     
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    I have no idea how high my preferred action is in numbers, but it's definitely higher than most people seem to set it.
     
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    EC Strat Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    I like setting mine to around 2 mm which is about 5/64. I would consider that medium personally and my fingers don’t slide underneath the adjacent strings when bending.
     
  13. Dadocaster

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    My right hand prefers action a bit higher than my left hand. They have to compromise and shake on it.
     
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    High enough that the adjacent strings don't slip under my finger tips when I bend.
     
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    Every string gets raised to the point that all fret buzz disappears. I don’t measure it, and never have but upon a visual inspection it’s probably in the region of 4mm......give or take.

    So, probably on high side as far as most people are concerned.
     
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    I’ve never, ever, measured the action on any of my guitars. I just know when it’s right. I like a little bit of ‘fight’ as I’m quite a dig in player but no idea what the numbers are.

    From the previous posts, I would say I’m in the majority.
     
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    Never use any rulers either.
    Neither on string height or pickup height.. All by feel and finding a sweet spot.
     
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    Fender specs are stated as median starting points, not hard and fast rules. I usually start there, and as others mentioned adjust from there to my liking. This usually takes time as I make tiny changes as I go and give every change a fair test to see what I like or don’t like.

    When I’m satisfied and haven’t felt the need to adjust anything further, then I’ll measure and jot down the results. That way if I find it way off someday I have a reference to go back to.
     
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    Mines about a red pubic hair.
    Don't know what that measures
     
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    If it's Italian, about a quarter inch.
     
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