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MP3 format dead??

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by CalicoSkies, May 16, 2017.

  1. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 13, 2012
    Yeah but it doesn't make that much of a difference to me. What an old mono tape cassette of The Beatles playing "She Loves You" and a 320kb/s AAC stereo remaster of the Beatles playing "She Loves You" have in common is that it's The Beatles playing "She Loves You" and that's the bit I care about. If look at a bad photocopy of a handwritten scribble of the sheet music for Goldberg Variation No. 1 and then a brand new copy of the same piece laser-printed straight from Sibelius on high-quality paper, it still doesn't change the fact that I'm reading Goldberg Variation No. 1, and that's the bit I care about.
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  2. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 13, 2011
    Music City TN
    I absolutely cannot stand the sound of low bit-rate MP3s !
    My best friend who was an early adopter of MP3 would say it's better than a cassette but I'd rather listen to a poor quality cassette than a swishy cheese grater MP3.

    That said, the quality level of MP3 playback varies greatly from truly horrible to "ok" at the higher bit rates (256k and above).
    So it's a matter of your expectations and listening environment.
    In a car with a significant ambient noise level the compression scheme leaves enough residual fidelity to equal the other car formats.

    As far as whether the format is "dead" I don't think so.
    (I've read several recent reports such as the one linked)
    It's just so ubiquitous that even as other formats come into prominence MP3 playback will certainly still supported for the foreseeable future.
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  3. jtees4

    jtees4 Strat-O-Master

    Nov 18, 2011
    Cassettes????? I'm still holding out for the 8 Track comeback!!! o_O

  4. carver

    carver The East Coast Strangler Strat-Talk Supporter

    does it really matter?

    not in the slightest.

    main point is. get that music to my ears, and we will be ok in the end.

  5. Mr C

    Mr C Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 17, 2016
    New Zealand
    Music along with all other media content is gradually being moved to a utility model by the major distributors, they don't want to sell music they want you to just pay a regular sub for it, i don't see a place long term for any commercial formats other than that except in very specialised niches such as vinyl. I'm not sure what formats Spotify etc use when you save songs to play offline, I assume apple uses AAC. But each service wil have its own preferred house file and container formats.

  6. rcole_sooner

    rcole_sooner Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Mar 11, 2010
    Norman, OK
    I got my phone and a USB flash stick full of albums in various MP3 flavors. I listen to the stick in my truck and my phone while running/cycling.

    The fidelity is fine in those environments.
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  7. StratoTerr

    StratoTerr Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 21, 2011
    Lewes De.
    NO! Altho the Metal , not metal oxide , sounded really good as did VHS hi fi.

  8. StratoTerr

    StratoTerr Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 21, 2011
    Lewes De.
    MP3 s are fine for car, just not living room.
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  9. suncrush

    suncrush Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 25, 2014
    In 90% of the listening environments I'm in, I can't tell the difference between 320 kbps and lossless. I can hear 196 kbps in the house, so I don't like that.
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  10. rcole_sooner

    rcole_sooner Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Mar 11, 2010
    Norman, OK
    Jeez ... I am so busy ... I don't think I ever "listen" to music except while in the truck or running/cycling. I think that is one of the reasons I love running/cycling so much, it is my "me time" and the only time I get to listen to tunes.

    Also if I have time for music at home, I am going to be playing my guitar.

    I use to listen to music on my home stereo a lot way, way back in the day .... just don't seem to do it anymore.

  11. s5tuart

    s5tuart My Dad used to say.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 8, 2011
    Bedford, UK
    Me too!
    I used to own some very high end hifi but don't even have a CD player or amplifiers any more.
    I have all my collection on MP3 and gave away all my CDs years ago.
    No storage problems either...close to 10,000 songs available at the click of a button. Put the iPhone on random and I hear stuff that I'd long forgotten about!

    With my hearing range decreasing every day, even more after a couple of beers, I don't see the point of having anything better, for me. :D
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  12. pazman6

    pazman6 Strat-O-Master

    I have over 500GB of mp3s (some wma). MP3s sound fine to me for porch sitting and listening to in the car. Having over 100,000 songs on a drive is pretty handy. The pono audio file format probably has files that are ~6 times larger. Not practical for casual listening, plus not worth reconverting or purchasing. I find it funny how we went from LPs which sounded "Warm" and "Organic" to CDs (which "don't sound as good as LPs" and then to MP3s (due mostly to storage requirements on digital devices) and then decided "high resolution digital some how sounds good again. I personally never had a problem with the sound of CDs and it was a much easier format to deal with than LPs. I do miss the art work and album sleeves.
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  13. Vindibona1

    Vindibona1 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    While the future is always speculation at best, even in the short term these days, it seems to me that while music may stop being introduced and sold in mp3 format, I think mp3 will be around for a long long while. Unlike vinyl, where turntables were (temporarily) replaced by tapes, and then CD players, mp3 will not require different hardware to play them. Only time will tell.

  14. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 10, 2013
    Hillsboro, OR, USA
    You could look at the files and see what filename extension they have. If they have an .aac extension, then they're AAC; if they have an .mp3 extension, then they're MP3, and so forth.

  15. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 10, 2013
    Hillsboro, OR, USA
    I'd rather have something that sounds as good as possible..
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  16. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    The Gunter Hotel recordings of Robert Johnson sound great no matter the format. It's the quality of the music recorded that matters to me. The ears will forgive the format if they like what they're hearing.
    That being said, I like what is easy. Mp3's are easy. :D

  17. carver

    carver The East Coast Strangler Strat-Talk Supporter

    this makes so much sense. some of those old bobby bland recordings are horrible. but damn it if they dont add to the sound that made me love bland.. hearing some of those old records re done in todays world would be an interesting thing to listen too.. sure you would have to dig up a few dead guys and bring them back to life, then convince them to re record an album that they cut 50 or 60 years ago.. then you have to worry if they still remember the songs and have the chops they had before they died and you brought them back to life.
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  18. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Think about the Chess stuff, especially the Little Walter records. The way the band swells when the vox aren't there. Bleed into the vocal mic does this because they're all playing at once.

    It's all about the music, not the "media". :D
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  19. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    i love my vinyl. i probably love your vinyl too.

    but i'll listen to crappy youtubes if its what i've got... i'll listen to all those windchimes in the other thread too, if that's all there is... the only thing i cannot abide is to open up my ears to dig in to something wonderful only to have the neighbor let it rip on whatever stupid twostroke mayhem he's causing... then you see a mild mannered middle aged man yelling some pretty rotten things out the window.
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  20. Dadocaster

    Dadocaster Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Argh. But if we are talking about something like mp3 vs WAV, they are equally "easy" just a different size file. If by easy you mean ubiquitous, then yep, mp3 wins.

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