MTV's impact on music....

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  1. mikej89

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    I know I'm basically preaching to the choir on this one but I honestly don't think a lot of people realize even today the amount of impact MTV had. Nowadays only great looking young women can succeed in the mainstream but within just a 5 year sample size of MTV's impact:

    1982:



    1987:

    *Lead singer Mike Tramp is basically a male model

     
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    Yep and YouTube took over once MTV died to make sure only the most attractive make it to the top. Although there is an exception to the rule from time to time..... Ah oh is it time to set the clock back now?
     
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    What's interesting is there was a definitely flip in which sex has the advantage. On MTV in the 80s if you were male, all your band needed was long hair, a ship ton of hairspray, and spandex. OTOH, it was near impossible for women to break into that genre.

    Contrast that with Youtube. An attactive ahem, endowed, female guitarist who is mediocre at best, can get a giant following easily. For males OTOH, it's near impossible to get a following. You can shred like no other and have some great ideas, it won't matter. You need a non musical angle to add in, usually a good sense of humor.
     
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    Yeah your right I didn't realize that. Although I have been thinking if I ever want to play out with my acoustic I will need to find a female singer to draw a crowd.
     
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    If you're a guy on Youtube you can play "Eruption" verbatim and get 3k views while a cute girl will get 3m views doing the exact same thing lol. In the 80's guys learned how to shred to get laid, now nobody cares lol.
     
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    it all started when this video became a self fulfilling prophecy.

     
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    While I agree with the point, your example is really beside the point. Social media musician does not = artist. Being able to play eruption doesn't make you an artist and wouldn't put you on MTV or whatever played that role before. Unless, of course, you're the one who played it first!
    There are a lot of YouTube/Instagram/TikTok/Twitch "virtuosos" these days, but their performances have more to do with cirque du soleil in the way they're consumed than with music. People watch them like a 1-minute performance of tricks, plus a portion of the audience are also musicians basically watching to learn. But in most cases it's not something that will end up playing in your car when you want to put some music on.
    As far as artists are concerned, I wouldn't necessarily narrow it all down to just sexuality. What MTV did is the importance of visuals in general, with sexuality being a part of it. Unless you present some kind of striking visuals that can really turn heads, it almost doesn't matter how good the music is. And that's indeed something that MTV has done. I'd say, early on it actually stimulated some true artistry, but eventually music videos became more of a spending contest.
     
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    video killed the radio star was the 1st vid played for a reason.

    then they sealed the deal by playing pat benatar next !
     
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    "And so it was our beloved corporate gods
    Claimed they created rock video
    Allowing it to sink as low in one year
    As commercial TV has in 25"

    "Forget honesty, forget creativity
    The dumbest buy the mostest, that's the name of the game
    But sales are slumping and no one will say why
    Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?"

     
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    And even that was (obviously not deliberately) a "ripoff" of what happened to Divinyls.
     
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    Ha! I remember going to this yearly free music festival at my college in 1994. My hessian buddies and I were all nice and drunk, so we pushed right up to the front and center. This band is warming up, and I said to my friend ehhh maybe we should split I don't think we're going to like these guys. Then this very pretty blonde with Princess Leah hair buns struts out on stage about ten feet away and says "We're No Doubt." I was thinking....ohhh boy, there's no doubt we're staying now. She's got a really unique voice though and great stage presence.
     
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    It was a big deal when it first aired and I looked forward to seeing/hearing my favorite music--back in the day they would occasionally air The Song remains the same and The Wall. By the early 90's it moved to stuff I wasn't into along with the silly reality shows. From there VH1 was a better fit until it got weird...

    Included this from the Firm's: Live in Peace video


     
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    What’s MTV?
    Grumpy old men want to know
     
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    Mtv is an American cable TV channel that played music videos from the early 1980s until the early 1990s.
     
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    Couldn't say. I never watched it.
     
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    In the early years MTV rocked and my friends and I had it on a lot. Then they completely switched genres and went to rap. Then they added <yawn> reality TV shows. Rock music videos became hard to find and were relegated to certain times. By that time I no longer cared and stopped turning it on.

    Nowadays I find that video distracts from the music and more often than not has nothing to do with the music. I mostly angle my screen so I can avoid watching and just listen.
     
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    for a minute it was interesting.

     
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    which minute was that?
     
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    Just my opinion.

    MTV's impact on music was no doubt huge in many ways.

    Just one area, it created a genre where looks mattered more than the quality of the music.