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  1. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    Hi All,
    I need the help of the collective to find what appears to be a rarity of guitar straps.
    I have two single piece leather straps that are 25 & 30 years old, one khaki brown suede leather, the other black.
    I am looking for another brown one- SINGLE piece, no glued & stitched multi-piece please.
    Show me what you can find because I am having trouble finding any.

    Something like this...
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  2. RaySachs

    RaySachs Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I bought a couple of these a few months back. You specify the length, he cuts them, they’re not adjustable, just a simple strip of leather 1 1/2 or 2 inches wide. Not real thick, but thick enough to do the job. I got one with two holes cut in one end so I guess it is slightly adjustable, but no moving parts. A minimalist strap. I had a 40% off coupon when I bought mine, so they were only $50 something each for the thin ones. Normal price is quite high. But sounds like what you’re looking for... And a good guy to deal with.

    https://www.mcmurrayandblonde.com/collections/guitar-straps

    I had the holes cut for strap-locks, so there's no slit in the hole, but I think there ordinarily is... Your call either way...

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  3. dueducs

    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    That is close to perfect (although I prefer suede leather), but as you said, quite expensive. I do like the ash brown color.
     
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    RaySachs Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    He had a coupon code on The Gear Page that might still work. Try typing "TGP" into the coupon code and see. I bought mine several months ago, so it might not, but he didn't specify any end date, so it's worth a try. Still not cheap, but a lot more palatable. I don't see having to replace these in my lifetime given how easy I am on gear anymore.

    And he had a couple different types of leather. The backs of my straps are almost suede in texture, so the feel and grip is there, but the tops are pretty smooth...

    -Ray
     
  5. Stormy Monday

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    have you asked @Bodean what he may be able to do?
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    Thanks. I will give the code a shot. How soft or stiff would you estimate the leather to be?
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    I love Jeff's work, but have not tried him because I thought what I am looking for might bore him to death LOL.
    For this one, I am really looking for a plain-jane strip of leather.
     
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    RaySachs Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    It's a bit stiffer than suede probably would be, but there's just not that much to it, so I find it really comfortable And it's softened up some in the time I've had them and I expect it will soften a bit more in time. But I can imagine suede would feel softer to the touch. But when I sling it over my shoulder, there's no feeling of stiffness, just when I feel it with my fingers...
     
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    Go to a shoe repair and tack shop , harness maker and have them make what you want. I had several made at the tack shop we use and the were very inexpensive. Just take your old one with you for a template.
    If the leather is too stiff just drag it back and forth over a board or something rigid. It will soften up the fibers .

    I think I paid six dollars apiece for one inch and ten dollars apiece for two inch all of them were fifty seven inches long and I used a leather punch to put holes in them. One hole at the upper bout and several holes an inch apart at the bottom end.
     
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    Bodean Just A Simple Man Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I can do plain Jane, it's just I am rarely asked.:D
    What perplexes me is where to source that kind of leather.
    Are both sides suede? Is it thick?
     
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    Bob the builder Senior Stratmaster

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    You leave Jane alone
    You're a married guy
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    What I have now is suede on both sides. Not stiff at all and fairly thick, about an 1/8".
     
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    Find a Tandy store near you and wander around. You'll find something.

    You might find a new hobby too ;)

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    Around here, you can source all kinds of good leather through "Tack" shops. I dunno if where you are has them, but anywhere you could buy a Saddle you could probably buy that leather.
     
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    Is Tandy still alive?
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    Yeah, I'm in the land of camels, not horses LOL I am mostly kidding. I have some friends with horses, I can check with them to see where they get saddles and such. Thanks for the idea. I would not have thought of it on my own.
     
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    Tandy is still alive, looks like you have split leather there on your original, the upper smooth grain layer trimmed off for something else.
    I can do single piece as well. thicker or thinner, wider or skinny, but not suede both sides, I don't have that technology here.
     
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    Thank for the shout out Ray!

    Answering a few questions or comments
    • Horween Chromexcel (what Ray has) has a little bit of a heavier "hand". With a 1 being fabric like leather and a 10 being like hard to bend, Chromexcel is probably a 6. The Crazy Horse style leather (the Ash Brown) is closer to a 4 to 5
    • Like TVVoodoo mentioned, you probably technically have a suede strap. There are a handful of layers that make up a cow hide. The "best" is full grain which includes the top layer that has the natural characteristics of the animal. That is usually shined up to give a smooth finished side. The flesh side of the leather is "suede" as it can be left natural and is usually kind of fuzzy.
    • If you slice that top layer of leather off, that can be sold as top grain leather. The rest is sold as split (if the new top side is finished) or suede if it's not.
    • You also have nubuck which typically includes a little bit of the top grain after part of it is split off.
    • Why does all this matter? As you go down the layers, the fibers are looser. So they aren't as strong and start to look bad sooner.
    • Answering one of the other comments (my stuff is expensive) - two parts. One, that is the MSRP price. I offer the discount Ray mentioned because of how great of referral sources TGP and its members are. Its 100% good for anyone e, I just dont advertise here so I cant post one here too. Two, I only use expensive full grain leather and make everything in Chicago. The reason you can buy a "leather" strap for $25 is because the leather literally costs 10% of what mine does. And it's made by people making $0.50 an hour. It will look "ok" for about a month. Mine will continue to look better as they age - warn in, not warn out.
    • Yes, you can make your own. But you can make your own guitar too. You can make your own clothes. And your own soap. But, in all those cases, it will not look as good as what a professional makes especially if you get leather from tandy or the shoe shop. I'll even tell you how to make your own and give you a source for the leather, all the tools and methods. You'll probably save $5 or 10. But that's if you dont mess up...

     
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    CB91710 This is a Custom Title Gold Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Tandy Leather, yes. I'm not sure when they split from Tandy/Radio Shack, but thankfully it was before hard times.
     
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    dueducs Senior Stratmaster

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    This is very helpful. Thank you.
     
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