Need advice regarding a 13 year old girl basic guitar lessons.

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  1. Stratafied

    Stratafied Most Honored Senior Member

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    On a side note to my suggestion, if she says rap is her favorite thing, she doesn’t need a guitar . Just two turntables and a microphone for that garbage .
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Really, it doesn't work like that. If only it did...
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Rap isn't that popular these days either, it's like so ten years ago Grandpa... :D
     
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    Stratafied Most Honored Senior Member

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    Geeze…I thought I was hip .
     
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    If you do get the chance to teach her to fish, teach her those simple chords in the context of a song she likes. A problem with so many curriculums is that they teach exercises and not music.
     
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    I got a feeling @Antstrat gonna be learnin some Katie Perry tunes.
    You go boi
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Hip? That we are not.

    Hip replacement maybe... :D
     
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    Now that things are moving toward this newbie guitar player getting started, try this:

    Get with her at their house with one of the parents around for encouragement.
    • Take a practice amp and guitar with you!
    • Start a beginner Utube vid of your choice. With her doing most of the playing, be there to get her started down that path and show her how 'easy' it is WITH practice.
    • Remember- beginner songs keep beginners playing.
     
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    That’s priceless… well done.
     
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    And Billie Eyelash.
     
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    Yeah man that’s it!!!
     
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    If you are familiar with proper set up then maybe start with the guitar first. String height at both the nut and bridge, neck relief, smooth/polish the frets being sure to knock off any sharp edges, set pickup height, then tune and intonate. Cheap guitars can usually be made to play well, but they often require a little more up front effort. Proper set up would help remove the potential frustration from a poorly set up instrument that is difficult to play.
     
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    All I'm basically going to do is show her a few basic things just to see if she really wants to learn, if she does then her dad will get her a real instructor.
     
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    Cerb Anti conformist reformist

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    My point is that if you just show her some basic exercises and chords, without showing her what to do with them, chances are that she won't want to continue.
     
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    Music should be fun. Let her experience the joy of making music.

    Ask her what she likes to listen to, why she wants to play, what she wants to sound like. Don't push Orianthi on her if she want to be Joni Mitchell, and vice-
    versa.

    Show her some videos of cool guitar stuff that you like -- make sure you include some videos of great women players like Nancy Wilson, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Wendy Melvoin, and more. Ask her to find some videos of songs and players she likes.
    • Show her how to fret a note. Then let her learn to play a song (Do-Re-Me is awesome, as it teaches the major scale) on one string. Then show her how to play the same song across two strings or three strings.
    • Show her how to play the G, C, and D chords with two fingers anchored on the 5 and 6 strings.
    • Then add in the Em. Suddenly she can play about 50 songs! (See Axis of Awesome)


    JustinGuitar has an awesome curriculum that you can follow. He teaches D, A, and E first -- he uses a game called one-minute changes that's pretty handy.
     
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    My first bit of advice would be to change the thread title.

    My 2nd bit of advice is to have her parent in the room with you.
     
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    I plan on having one or both parents present, no brainer there:thumb:
     
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    Simple.

    Open cowboy chords.

    A...D...E. I/IV/V.

    And the hundreds of songs you can play with those 3 chords.

    To shake it up after that's under her belt:

    G...C...D. I/IV/V.

    Play the same songs...in a different key.

    If she follows that...then get her an instructor.

    It's really that simple.
     
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    What Fezz said was exactly how I entered Geetar playun'.

    However, the caveat is that I was already playing piano for a dozen years prior.
    So I knew what those chords were, what notes were in those chords, the scales...

    For a kid who's not shown enthusiasm beyond a couple of months on any previous instrument, I'd perhaps lean towards "this is a waste of time"

    Only because learning any instrument requires an interest in music AND a commitment. and despite their ages, reading between the lines, the kids aren't at all enthusiastic about learning or there is no commitment.

    It's not about "which instrument" because once you learn how to read music or if you can play by ear, then the world is your oyster. You don't NEED the encouragement when you have enthusiasm.

    So I'd side with Fezz. teach the chords, show them how they make up a 'familiar' song. see if they are enthusiastic.

    You might need to walk them through it a few times until they can play it, but if they pick it up quick enough the 'enthusiasm' is there.
    But the caveats is as you have already said... are they going to stick with it beyond a month...

    It's a tough one.
     
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