New Epiphone "The Dot"

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  1. Swamp_Thang

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    I picked this up from a pawn shop today. It looks great but has some pretty bad fret buzz.
     
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    A friend of mine bought one of those about 10-15 years ago. The neck was terrible even for a sub-$200 guitar. Really nice hollow body tone though.
     
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    Take it to a pro for an in-depth set-up… may cost you a little more $$, but then the guitar might really shine. Or else DIY: I invested a few hours and upgraded parts in my Casino to great effect. A little TLC and rattling, things stability, etc were gone.
     
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    @Swamp_Thang I just got mine on Friday. It arrived not needing anything other than a truss rod adjustment. The guitar was ready to go out of the box. Mine is an “Inspired by Gibson” model like yours is.

    These guitars have two-way truss rods. If you don’t have any relief in the neck, turn the truss rod counter clockwise until you have a little relief in the neck. Mine arrived with the rod in the center of it’s adjustment, which is to say that the neck was perfectly straight and the rod was sloppy to turn clockwise, or counter clockwise. It buzzed everywhere before I adjusted it.

    Just turn it until you can feel the rod start to engage. Mine was super easy to turn. I only put about half a turn past where the truss rod engaged, and now I have 6 or 7 thousandths of relief on the neck.

    Measure this by holding the low E at the first fret and the last fret and checking the gap at the 8th or ninth fret with the string depressed. It should be minimal. You can measure with automotive feeler gauges, or if you’ve been doing it as long as I have, by eyeballing the space between the top of the 8th fret and the string.

    If that doesn’t cure it, raise the action a bit. I did have to raise
    mine a little bit at the saddles. I have 4/64ths at the 14th fret on the high E and 5/64th at the 14th fret on the low E.

    If the open strings buzz off the first fret, you will need to have the nut sorted. Any buzz on the frets from the first on down should be a matter of neck adjustment and saddle height.
     
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    Yeah, I might give it a bit more relief. It seems to buzz more in the middle frets.

    The A string buzzes when open, so it might need a new nut.
     
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    Epi Dots are the gateway into even more semi-hollows. Ask me how I know......
     
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    Mine’s the other way around: I’ve never been able to get it sounding how I want, but it plays so well I can’t bring myself to get rid of it.
     
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    As somebody who works in QC that kind of variation bugs the crap out of me.
     
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    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985

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    A little relief in the neck may fix the buzz on the open A string. Adjust the truss rod and see how it is before you worry about changing the nut.
     
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    You are so right! I got my 335 dot and enjoyed it so much it was soon followed by a Swingster, Wildkat and an Epiphone 339. All really fun to play.

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    You can build the nut up a little with the crazy glue trick since it is only one string that gives you problems.
     
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    Congrats on "The Dot". Shouldn't be to hard to eliminate the buzz.

    Fine looking guitar, enjoy.
     
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    I bought my 2007 MIC Dot from a pawnshop, with case, probably 5 years ago. It was in pretty good condition, had a surprisingly fat neck, and cost about $200. I didn’t even plug it in. It sounded good acoustically, nice and resonant. Set up was decent. I had several sets of Gibson pickups that I was going to try swapping in.

    A little minor setup and it has been very stable. I spent some time dialing in the stock pickups, and it growls.

    Do a setup and enjoy what it has to offer.
     
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    I added a quarter turn of relief and I think it sounds better. I'll add another quarter turn tomorrow and see how it goes.
     
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    HNGD! Collect them all...trade with your friends.
     
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    I added another quater turn. It's sounds pretty good now. Still a tiny bit of buzz but it's acceptable now.
     
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    You need some basic tools for setup. I used to do adjustment by eye, but is is so much quicker and accurate if you invest in a few items.

    I got all these for about $18 CDN from Amazon.ca a few years back.
    My wife was ordering something and needed a few dollars more to get free shipping.

    Many will say the cheap tools are no good, but I my experience tells me that they are better than no tools.
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