Newb - HSS wiring questions

[Butcher_my_axe]

It's all possible, though I don't agree with which switch you'll be using for which function from an intuitive perspective. Depending on whether your pots are all audio/log taper or not, if they are I'd have the push-pull as tone 2 controlling the humbucker coil split, a toggle next to tone 1 controlling the bridge/neck tone selector, and a toggle next to the volume pot controlling the Gilmour switch. But that's just me with the setups I've wired in the past.

 

[iH8usrnames]

Desoldered connections, removed shrink.

Side with screws
White - pos
Black - neg

Side that’s flat
Green -pos
Red - neg

 

[iH8usrnames]

It's all possible, though I don't agree with which switch you'll be using for which function from an intuitive perspective. Depending on whether your pots are all audio/log taper or not, if they are I'd have the push-pull as tone 2 controlling the humbucker coil split, a toggle next to tone 1 controlling the bridge/neck tone selector, and a toggle next to the volume pot controlling the Gilmour switch. But that's just me with the setups I've wired in the past.

As usual, somebody (me) who does not fully comprehend how to do it is making it more complicated than need be.

* I just checked, the push/pull I have is audio taper.

If I fully comprehend.
- push/pull is dedicated to humbucker.
It selects single coil or humbucker depending on position.
In either position it is going to control tone for that pickup, and that pickup only.

- Toggle between middle tone and push/pull pot.
It determines if middle tone control is assigned to middle or neck pickup.
This has the added benefit of allowing independent tone from bridge and neck pickups if/when Gilmour mod is engaged.
The only downside is single tone control when neck and middle pickups are engaged. (I feel really unsure if I have this correct).

- Toggle between middle tone and volume to enable "Gilmour mod".
This will potentially deliver that Gilmour sound while also crushing my spirits for lacking that Gilmour talent.

Am I correct?
You should have seen all the questions I had when I would point to point soldering a vacuum tube power supply for a phono preamp - with a guitar I have no fear of killing myself.

Note:
If my reply's seem strange or out of order, its because I was already writing a post when another was added.

 

[iH8usrnames]

• Humbucker coil split? Yep. I made the diagram for a north-coil split. It's possible to do a south coil split with a standard SPDT or DPDT as well, but if you want both options in the one switch, you'll need an on-off-on SPDT/DPDT switch.

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  What is the difference between a North coil split and a South coil split? It about phase or just one being slightly closer to the bridge than the other, thus slightly different sound?
  
  

  [*]Tone controls for each pickup? Not at the individual level without drilling holes for a 3rd tone pot or using a concentric pot. Two pickups will need to share the one tone control. I made the diagram for a dedicated bridge humbucker tone control, and the single coils sharing a tone control.

  
  What I meant is tone a tone control per pickup engaged; not statically assigned to each one.
  - neck/middle engaged, each would have a tone control.
  - neck/bridge engaged, each would have a tone control.
  If its an unrealistic goal, no worries. a boy can dream.
  
  I really appreciate the diagram.
  Not sure how I am going to approach this but your contribution has been very helpful.

 

[StratUp]

Pot in down position would be neck tone.
Pot in up position would be bridge tone.
The standard pot would be middle tone.

Are you saying that you want one tone control (pot) to be for the neck OR bridge and the other to be dedicated to the middle pickup full time? Would you care if the tone controlled the neck AND the bridge - covering whichever one is selected?

Another option would be a master tone control that adjusts the tone for all three pickups. That frees up the other tone pot to do something else... or just be the hole for a bonus toggle switch without drilling more holes in your pickguad.

The downside to that approach is that if you like to set a tone level for the bridge, and a different one for the middle, and then want to be able to switch quickly from one pickup to the other without having to adjust the tone control... that's out.

 

[Deebs3]

The latest player series HSS strats have tone control for the bridge. You could have a look a that wiring diagram.

 

[iH8usrnames]

Are you saying that you want one tone control (pot) to be for the neck OR bridge and the other to be dedicated to the middle pickup full time? Would you care if the tone controlled the neck AND the bridge - covering whichever one is selected?

Another option would be a master tone control that adjusts the tone for all three pickups. That frees up the other tone pot to do something else... or just be the hole for a bonus toggle switch without drilling more holes in your pickguad.

The downside to that approach is that if you like to set a tone level for the bridge, and a different one for the middle, and then want to be able to switch quickly from one pickup to the other without having to adjust the tone control... that's out.

Actually, what I should do is just shutup and let you folks tell me what the best options are to get to my destination.

Ultimately, it would be nice to have a tone option for any two pickups currently selected but, if that is foolish or unnecessarily complicated, no worried.

I do not have a use case for this, I just want more versatility.

 

[iH8usrnames]

Thanks. The real complication comes in when I want to split the humbucker.
To give you an idea of just how new I am to guitar pickups, today I desoldered the leads on the humbucker; that is the first time I have ever touched a soldering iron to anything guitar pickup related.

 

[AngelLaHash]

if you want to use a Toggle switch then a 2P2T On/Off/On or On/On/On or even 1P2T On/Off/On

 

[iH8usrnames]

Tone control on the bridge humbucker is your choice and often part of Fender Strat wiring.
Splitting the humbucker to give a single coil can be done with a push pull tone control.

This is a general wiring diagram to achieve this. The wire colors on the humbucker are the same as a Wilkinson at Amazon, they may not match yours.
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An update.
I followed the diagram provided above (different colors) plus "Gilmour Mod" and am extremely pleased with the results.
*click in the quote above to see the one I followed.

Thank you to everyone for the help.