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NGD! 84 MIJ - Birthday fun

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  1. Mudman

    Mudman Strat-Talk Member

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    I wasn’t expecting to buy another guitar any time soon, but this popped up on FB marketplace. Only photo I have from the seller:

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    It was a very low price for an early 80’s, so I thought with some tlc, I could maybe flip it or trade for something fun. But it definitely had issues when I got there that made me think, well I own this now, lol. Two out of three pickups weren’t original, and the original was a ceramic bar magnet type. Neck has what appears to be jumbo frets and a 9.25” radius stock. No sign that it’s been refretted and the tangs are under the poly. It was missing screws and a case, so I headed to the local shop, figuring I could at least find a different bridge pup to have all single coils. Tons of little damage spots to the body, it could use a good buffing. Pretty sure it’s basswood.

    And then I saw the neck date.

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    It’s my birthday! Year is slightly off but only by one year. And in their box of random pickups, I found a complete set of fender custom shop ‘69’s missing their stickers. They sold me the set for $50 since it was from their mystery box. Score.

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    The pots and switch are all original.

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    Here’s the body stamp. You can also see the sole remaining original pickup, a fairly cheap flat pole ceramic jobber.

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    I have the saddles soaking in evaporust right now, they were completely siezed and rusted up. Here’s hoping. I have a set of Fender saddles on it from my 2000 mim 60’s series. The stock tuners are the schaller knockoffs. If I keep this long term, those will probably have to go. I’m hoping the F style 70’s tuners will fit. They work fine though, just feel cheap and look a bit funky.

    Here it is all strung up! It’s got a thick dark sound. Very different from my other two strats. I like it though. Not sure if it’s the 69 pickups or the wiring. It’s enamel wire, all read right around 6 k. The neck is dark, bridge is reedy. Middle is well, in between, lol.

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    It will be in good company with my AVRI ‘57!

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  2. Smokey3

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    I love guitars that are kinda beat up a little bit. Actually that's what I have always been into. I have never owned a new guitar in my life time. I especially like the Japanese made strats. I would make the changes that you want to make and you will have a great guitar for yourself. I think you made a smart buy. And it looks great the way it is. Congrats
     
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  3. 3bolt79

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    Happy Birthday! And Happy New Guitar Day!
     
  4. Thrup'ny Bit

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    It should be 7¼" radius and have vintage frets. What prefix is the serial number?
     
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    Happy birthday!
     
  6. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Oh yeah that too. I got distracted. Happy birthday @Mudman
     
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    Congrats. on the Strat. and happy birthday fellow Libran. (10-10’s my day too, however, the 84 is off by a few decades).
     
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  9. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Heard you the first time. :p Happy birthday for tomorrow...
     
  10. Mudman

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    Prefix is sq, but it’s a 4 bolt, not 3. I’m thinking it shares more in common with the A series.
     
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  11. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    That's because it's an ST 62 (according to the body stamp), based on the 60s pre-CBS Strat, not the CBS. Is the neck stamped ST62 or ST362? It's odd for an ST62 to have two string trees, otherwise the two models were very similar, but in different price ranges.
     
  12. Mudman

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    I’m afraid I didn’t look that closely at the neck joint I’m afraid. I was too surprised that it was made on my birthday. It’s all strung up now, probably won’t have it apart again any time soon.

    Where on the neck would I see that?
     
  13. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    On the back of the heel, if it's there, it's not always, sometimes there are no stamps or neck date at all.
     
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    I’ll look, but it’s likely to be a while. One of the neck screws is fairly rusted up, I don’t want to have to remove it more than I need to. Apparently it was in a garden shed for a few years?!?
     
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    I'd leave it alone until (if) it ever needs to come off again. Just play and enjoy.
     
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    The ST62 should have vintage split shaft tuners, like my ST54 below,the ST362 may have something else. Those tuners are replacements for the F-tuner used in the 70s.

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    Yeah, I don’t have those. I have the f tuner style from the 70’s. I’ll graba photo
     
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    Few more photos of my oddball (kind of like myself, lol)

    Front of the headstock:

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    Serial plate

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    In research I found, all of this is typical of a late ‘84 sq squier, minus the frets and radius - I hadn’t found mention of that.

    Here’s the last original pickup.

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  20. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Now I see what's happening. Those aren't Fender F tuners, they're the cheap trapezoid tuners. Serves me right for trying to identify a guitar from bad and incomplete detail photos. I think they classified it as ST-362, @Guitarmageddon will tell you.

    Many apologies, my brain is having one of it's dozier days today.

    They're still nice guitars, there wasn't as much difference between the Fender and Squier models back then, most of the body and neck parts are the samethey were all made by Fujigen.
     
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