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  1. Mudman

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    Oh I know they’re cheap, that’s why I said Schaller knockoffs. If the kluson’s will fit, they’d make a nice upgrade.

    On the good news side of things, I have rescued the original saddles! 16 hours in evaporust, and all of the height adjustment screws are free. I’ll probably replace a few screws that have the hex head worn out. I actually had to use a torx bit to bite into the metal and break them free.
     
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    Yep, A serial and early SQ serial ST-357's and 362's had higher grade trapezoid tuners - still low end but better than the traps we're used to.

    @Mudman - 70s F tuners won't fit - they lean the wrong way to line up with the holes.....traps lean to the left with the screw pattern, 70s F tuners to the right....
     
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    The Gotoh SD91 tuners should fit, (same as on my ST54) they come with bushes for both 8.8mm vintage and 10.5mm modern tuner holes. You'll just be left with one hole visible at the top of the headstock. I fitted a set to my Classic Player 50s a while back, cost about £40.
     
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    I was using a set of 1982 Fujigen traps until about three years ago. They were better than the rest since, but a replacement set of Gotohs on that guitar was bliss in comparison. :)
     
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    Bummer. Thanks for saving me $40 though, lol. These work alright, they just feel and look funky.
     
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    Saddles are all done! Have them on a spare bridge at the moment, but they cleaned up tremendously. They were almost black to begin with, and not a single screw would turn for the hex ones. I barely got the intonation screws out for cleaning. I even got these set to the 9.5” radius, so they’ll be easy to switch back over on the next string change.
     
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    Just remember, for setup none of them should be crooked like that - each saddle needs to be level with the bridge plate, not leaning to the high or low E side.....
     
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    The saddles should be parallel to the plate, both screws level, like steps.

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    I usually match the radius of the fretboard when I set the saddle heights, crooked and all to have the same curve. Intonation’s perfect and the strings don’t slide around. Thanks for the tip though, I’ll try straightening them next setup and see if I feel a difference.
     
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    YES, you match the radius by making each saddle a different height. That's how the pros do it. They still need to be all level and not cocked. Trust me it makes A HUUUUGE difference in tone and it's one of the first rules of setup.
     
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    I’ll give it a try!
     
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    Went ahead and made the change - didn’t notice much of a difference, but it does seem a bit more stable at least.

    With these pickups, zinc block, rosewood board, this thing has mids. It’s also .4 lbs lighter than my avri strat, kind of funny there. The ‘57 has more spank and clarity between notes in a chord. This has more down in the delta dark. Nice that they’re different. I’ll have to AB the mim 60’s next. Would a steel block brighten it up a bit more?
     
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    Only if you believe it would.
     
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    I’ll be honest, the main reason I like steel blocks vs zinc is the ballhead never gets stuck on me with steel, vs going fishing on most zinc block.
     
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    Never had that problem since I stopped used Fender Bullet strings in the early 80s.
     
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    I use the cut piece of the low E string trick - it's thickest so you can use it to poke strings out of the block if any others are stuck.....
     
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    Does it with d’addarios, but I may take too long between string changes.
     
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    Yep, that’s my fix too, just haven’t needed it with steel blocks. It is interesting - the mij block looks machined.
     
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