NGD Fender Japan e-series

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  1. mustacheman

    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    Hi,
    i bought "new" Fender Stratocaster guitar. The "new" one is from 1984-1987. E-series.
    what do you think ? is 100 original? I have oryginal string tree and strap holder i want change it.

    I think the electronics are 100% serial and looks like american standard ! What you think? The neck has no strap on the back. I wonder about the body. I had a T series start from 1994 years ago. It had an SSS cutter. The H-S-H cutter has a new one. is this standard? Help me please. I wonder if it's a good purchase. The guitar cost around $ 700. back.jpg body.jpg head.jpg bridge.jpg key.jpg neck.jpg pick.jpg
     
  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I don't like the body or the bridge, they don't look right. The neck is from a Japanese Standard ST-362 Strat
     
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  3. MartinC

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    Neck fine. Body not so. I have never seen an E series routed like that.
     
  4. mustacheman

    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    whoever saw such a cutter in the body? :(
     
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  5. mustacheman

    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    the bridge is real in my opinion, without fender logo. I saw on youtube:


    I wonder if it is possible for someone to put together the original neck, buy original electronics, a bridge and a fake body?
     
  6. mustacheman

    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    it's about shape or HSH cutter. Can you develop a thought?
     
  7. MartinC

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    There are a number of things. Those pickups look too new to be 33 years old. They have staggered pole pieces whereas of this era I expect flat on MIJ E Series (as they are in that video you posted). The bridge just doesn't look right somehow. I cannot say exactly how. Its an impression. Then the routing HSH on a guitar that should be SSS. I had sort of thought the E series were pretty faithful to the pickups fitted. So I have seen SSS , HSS and even single H but not HSH. Now that might just be I haven't seen enough. But it is grounds for being a little bit suspicious. People can and do put all sorts of different parts on guitar. Maybe the body is original and the pickups and guard switched? Who knows.
     
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    Stratafied Most Honored Senior Member

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    I’m not qualified to opine.
     
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    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    Looks like a partscaster to me. Sorry.

    BTW - It is common for Fender necks with a rosewood board not to have the skunk stripe.

    And welcome to the forum.
     
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    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks ! You are awesome. Flat magnets is true!
    applause for perceptiveness

    the situation is now clear, tomorrow I will return the guitar to the store where I bought it.

    Yeap, looks like partcaster. Thank you guys.

    My T series from 1994 have flat magnets too, 3xSSS routing, but
    I have already forgotten what the original old Japanese fenders should look like
    wanted a practice guitar to give some slack to my 1979 fender stratocaster :)
     
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    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    thank you. I forgot to greeting :thumbd:
    I will be visiting here more often. you are very helpful
     
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    Antstrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    What does it look like assembled?
     
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    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    look imo very nice
     
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    StummerJoe Senior Stratmaster

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    Looks killer all together. Play it and have fun!:thumb:
     
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    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    I gave this black beautiful stratocaster

    I found another, look at this wonder! fender G series 1987-1988. seller claims it is a '57 reissue, alder body and american pickups.
    I managed to get to know that the masking plate is not original, because it is 3 pieces.
    what do you think? it is worth

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    Body and neck are probably from a Boxer Series ST-456 (same necks like ST-362), or another model that used those bodies because they have this exact HSH routing. They came with black pickguard, humbucker in bridge position and two ceramic pickups in middle and neck. So the white pickguard wouldn’t be the original one.


    The pickups are legit MIJ ones. I have an 1984 Squier CST Strat (SQ serial, big headstock) with the same pickups, also staggered. Then I also have another Squier CST strat, same looking pickups but flat pole pieces. Some people, including me, saying those plastic bobbin pickups with the square holes are the "SQ-5" ones (there are also "SQ-5 hot rod" ones) and that the fiber bobbin ones are the "SQ-4" ones. Some say it’s the other way. My CST strat with the staggered pole piece pickups came with a sticker where it says "Squier SQ 5 hot rod", I will post a picture.

    Potentiometer are legit MIJ ones. Switch not.

    A ST-456 would have another, more modern style bridge. So the bridge on your guitar probably is changed. Hard to tell from those pictures if it’s a MIJ one or not.

    My thoughts:

    - ST-456 neck and body
    - changed 1 ply 8 screw pickguard
    - changed pickups (MIJ)
    - changed bridge

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    Note the sticker. The pickups are staggered like yours.
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    mustacheman Strat-Talk Member

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    amazing knowledge. You're talking about black..?
    If so, it will be knowledge for all users. I returned the black one.

    how about this vintage white?
     
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    Tamarindo03 Strat-Talker

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    Exactly, the black one.

    The white one has a changed pickguard if the neck and body are original from a ST57. Can’t tell more from those pictures.