noisy springs?

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  1. longboard blues

    longboard blues Senior Stratmaster

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    On my Am Std, i have the trem set to float, but biased to mostly dive - as in it'll only raise the pitch a small amount, for when i want a bit of shimmer. I have noticed that if i gently hit the bridge, to get the fast rise in pitch i need sometimes, the trem springs boing loudly, and go on rining for a while. Its not so noticeable when plugged in (but is there), but when i tried it raw, it boinged for ages - anyone else get this? 2 of the springs are black, leading me to believe they're after market.

    Any thoughts, hive mind?
     
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    Antstrat Most Honored Senior Member

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    Black springs?

    On a US strat?

    Uh oh, that's like plugging an amp into 220 volts, your strat will eventually catch fire and melt.

    (I would just replace the springs if it bugs you, easy and cheap)
     
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    longboard blues Senior Stratmaster

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    yeah, that was my first thought - when i pluck them, the black ones seem to resonate longer. Just wondered if anyone else had seen this?

    It's the Melbourne Guitar Show tomorrow, so it's just something else to add to the list of things; i'm going to need to take a ute along at this rate!
     
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    Put something semi soft under the springs to deaden them?
     
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    i did that - found some foam rubber and tried it. unfortunately, when i used the trem, it came back way out of tune. Removing the foam stopped that. A conundrum indeed!

    Or, i could put my big boy pants on and live with it!!!
     
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    I'm afraid the only solution is to get a new guitar.
     
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    A "boing" sounds like the spring hooks sticking.

    Try a tiny bit of lubricant on the spring hooks/loops.
     
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    The cure to this problem for me was to take the back cover off. My beer gut then contacts the springs, deadening them.
     
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    Pic......

    Second thought never mind.
     
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    I just cut some packing foam into long thin strips, guided them into the springs with a guitar string and cut the excess. No more spring noise.
     
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    I’d be curious to know exactly what was going on. Did you take the backplate off and operate the Trem while looking in the back? Try and pinpoint the exact issue. The way you describe it, it almost sounds like a spring is slipping or popping or hanging up on something. Take a peek in there while you stretch the springs and see what’s going on.

    New springs may be the way to go.
     
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    longboard blues Senior Stratmaster

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    yes, i think you might be on to something...

    Can't see anything sticking - but a bit of lube is probably a good idea on the contct points

    Hmm... not a bad plan. If lube don't work, i'll try it. Thanks.

    Yeah, backplate is off anyway. Nothing appears to be slipping or catching - the springs seem to be behaving like guitar strings, with a resonance and a sine wave. I'll pick up some springs anyway, always handy to have in the parts box.


    Cheers all!!
     
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    Hey, maybe that's it - 6 months ago i was 195lb ,now i'm 160 - maybe the lack of my excess has caused this. Best get the dearly beloved to make more cakes. . .
     
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    +1 on the stuff foam inside spring solution.
     
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    Do this...

    thin strips of foam down the center of the springs. The springs won't catch it, so it will return to tune when using the trem. It will dampen the spring noise
     
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    Cut some fuel line tubing and stuff in them
     
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    Ditto on the fuel line tubing. I did this with come 3/16" plastic tubing cut into 1 1/2 inch or so pieces placed in the centers of the springs. Deadens the spring noise, doesn't effect the trem and is not visible. Win, win win.
     
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    that'll do it!!


    this is why I like this forum - despite only being here a couple of weeks, i've got excellent answers to my questions, and none of the internecine warfare that seems to characterise other forums..


    Nice one!
     
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    I like the idea of the stuff inside the spring.. I'll have to remember that one.
     
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    Yup, sorry forgot to mention, 3/16" (right on tschucha) from most any hardware store.

    The clear stuff seems to work well, if you want more color to your tone, some stock it in red.

    :D

    Happy pickin'