Ok, guys. 84-87 MIJ Squier authenticity check.

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  1. Justin226

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    The time has come and I’ve fallen for a new guitar. Buyer has good ratings and I don’t see any red flags, but I’m not an expert. Please check this out for me and let me know if you see anything. Price seems lower than others on the market, and it has been listed for 5 months (not sure if those count as red flags, actually). Was going to ask for a slight discount...we’ll see.

    https://reverb.com/item/37001040-us...are&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=37001040
     
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    I'm not a specialist, but the electronics looks fishy... Ty-rap and plastic switch in 87 ???
     
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    Can’t see your post :(
     
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    These are the things I need help with. I thought this was an easy one because it had only the two controls and era correct input jack. Will likely replace pups at some point, but would like to buy all original.
     
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    Also guys, is this fiesta or Carolina red?
     
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    Andddddd any list of specs on this would be appreciated. I had a look online but couldn’t find one, and I’m not great at finding these things.
     
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    All electronics look identical to what was in my mid 80's Squire strat when it was still origional
     
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    That's good info for him, like I said I'm no specialist, but a plastic switch looked really cheap... but what do I know.
     
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    I think it is Dakota red.

    At some point Squire production moved from Japan to Korea.
    Some of the the Bullet 1 Strats had a tele style headstock.

    you might get better information on this at squire-talk
     
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    I meant Dakota...thanks for the correction!mornings aren’t kind to me.
     
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    I more search and I found the following:

    "In 1985, 86 and 87 production was again moved, this time to Korea to reduce costs (E serial number pre-fix stamped on the neck plate). These guitars were marketed as the Squier Bullet One and used plywood bodies. The neck was a rosewood board on maple and had a Strat headstock with a Telecaster style heel, three single coil pickup pattern like the Stratocaster, as well as a low cost two point tremolo. These were available in Red or Black."

    So based the E S/N, that would not be a MIJ but an MIK...
     
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    Squier Bullets are selling for $450 now? I know this one is older, but this is Fender's lowest priced offering, made with the cheapest parts and the cheapest labor they could find at the time. I am much more accustomed to seeing Squiers go for $60-100.

    I haven't seen a switch like that before. The pots are cheap dime-sized and the pickups are cheap ceramics--both exactly as I'd expect in an 80s Squier.

    I think this is a real Squier Bullet, probably built in 1987 and probably in South Korea. I also think it's drastically overpriced.
     
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    The headstock says MIJ...did he part it together? This one has the standard Strat shaped headstock, not the tele style.
     
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    Actually I’m wrong. Don’t see MIJ anywhere. Big bummer.
     
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    You would get more bang for your buck with a new classic vibe for about the same money.
     
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    Yea...I’m in the hunt for a birth year guitar though. 1984. Saw this and it was close enough and in a color I liked. But I’d rather have something from Japan.
     
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    Tough year to get, lol
    (But I’m sure you already know that!)
     
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    Sadly!
     
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    I know you figured out the MIJ piece after this post... From what I can read/find an MIJ should have a serial number starting with SQ.

    As for the neck, from what i understand...there is a subtlety, they were may with a Start headstock neck, but the heel (which connect to the body) was shaped as a telecaster.