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Paris?! nooooooo Im so sorry to see this

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by carver, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Malurkey

    Malurkey Senior Stratmaster

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    It is irreplaceable, and this is very unfortunate.

    Luckily, however, no one appears to have been trapped inside, and no one has been reported hurt.
     
  2. henderman

    henderman Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    i care little for stuff but this is very different.

    irreplaceable art and history is not just "stuff", oh man.
     
  3. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The view from my kitchen window when I lived in the center of Paris back in the early 1990s... you can see, faintly, Notre-Dame from the side. The square towers on the left, the (now gone) spire on the right. Those are my cats, Roisin and Pushkin (RIP).

    Roisin&Pushkin&Notre Dame 1.jpeg

    They are trying hard to save the towers and the walls. Some of the art and relics are in the sacristy and currently protected from the flames... but they're not sure they're going to get the fire under control tonight....
     
  4. LPBlue

    LPBlue "That Guy", again...dammit! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Don't I know it! My store was 1.5 blocks from this one...

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    An ice cream plant went up started by welding on the roof. Old insulation between old/new sections caught fire and took the whole thing down. Hardly a cathedral but an impressive fire in a small town. I have hundreds of pics of the day/next day!:eek:
     
  5. Bodean

    Bodean Just A Simple Man Strat-Talk Supporter

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    All that lovely historical glasswork is likely gone since it was held together with lead.
     
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  6. LPBlue

    LPBlue "That Guy", again...dammit! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Do you suppose that from all of the photos taken over the years that they might not be reconstructed? The fire would not melt the glass but only the lead. It would be akin to forensics on a plane crash with all of the debris contained?o_O
     
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  7. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    They think they’ve saved the structure and maybe a part of the ceiling. The towers are ok, and the walls. t least some of the windows.
    The stone has been affected by the heat, of course...
     
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  8. Robins

    Robins Dr. von Loudster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The churches will burn.
    They don´t care about us.
    It is sad and a real tragedy.

    Take care,
    Robin
     
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  9. strat_strummer

    strat_strummer Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I just seen it on the news, absolutely heart breaking.
     
  10. Mansonienne

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    Yeah, I’ve heard the rose windows have probably been destroyed...:(
     
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  11. RJ Squirrel

    RJ Squirrel Senior Stratmaster

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    This is a tragic loss of art and architecture, not only for Paris, but for the entire world.:(
     
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    Incredibly sad to see the devastating damage to such a beautiful cathedral. :(
     
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  13. Jerryarnett

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    Sad to see history go up in flames
     
  14. Wrighty

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    Yep, renovations are risky. Windsor Castle was badly damaged a few years back.
     
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    J'en pleure... c'est tragique.
    Une perte immesurable.
    :(
     
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  16. Lone Woof

    Lone Woof Senior Stratmaster

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    Terrible, just terrible.

    With the timing of this, at the start of Holy Week, I can't help but suspect ISIS. They just recently announced plans for terror attacks in Europe. I know the news says the fire has something to do with renovation work. We'll see if the story changes.
     
  17. Lone Woof

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    Excerpt from an article in the American Spectator today:

    From Voice of Europe:

    Since the beginning of 2019, France has seen a torrent of attacks which have included arson, vandalism, and desecration of a number of its historic Catholic churches.

    The defacers have torn down crosses, knocked down tabernacles, smashed statues, and have destroyed the Eucharist, igniting fears of a rise in widespread anti-Catholic sentiment across the country.

    On Sunday the 17th of March, just following midday mass, the historic Church of St. Sulpice in Paris was set ablaze, Newsweek reported. Although nobody was injured, French authorities are currently still looking into the attack, which firefighters have attributed to arson.

    Did you know about this? I didn’t. More from Breitbart:

    In Lavaur, in the southern department of the Tarn, the village church was assaulted by young men, who twisted one arm of a representation of the crucified Christ to make it appear that he was making an obscene gesture.

    In the peripheries of Paris, in the department of Yvelines, several churches have suffered profanations of varying importance, in Maisons-Laffitte and in Houilles.

    Although commentators have been reluctant to attach a particular religious or cultural origin to the profanations, they all share an evident anti-Christian character.

    In recent months, anti-Semitic gangs have desecrated Jewish cemeteries, signing their actions with swastikas. In the case of the desecration of Catholic churches, the vandalism has spoken for itself: ridicule of the figure of Christ on the cross and desecration of major altars.

    The Catholic hierarchy has kept silent about the episodes, limited themselves to highlighting that anti-Christian threat and expressing hope that politicians and police will get to the bottom of the crimes.

    Reports indicate that 80 percent of the desecration of places of worship in France concerns Christian churches and in the year 2018 this meant the profanation of an average of two Christian churches per day in France, even though these actions rarely make the headlines.

    In 2018, the Ministry of the Interior recorded 541 anti-Semitic acts, 100 anti-Muslim acts, and 1063 anti-Christian acts.

    It seems that Notre Dame being purposefully burned would not be out of the question. France is troubled and the church and political leaders seem to be in denial.

    Full article:
    https://spectator.org/notre-dame-burns/
     
  18. Bob the builder

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    That's the times we live in. First thing everyone fears is another terrorist attack. I thought it too until I heard nobody got hurt. The terrorists don't want to take out near vacant buildings under renovation. They want to take out as high of a body count as they can.
     
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  19. Lone Woof

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    Did you not read the excerpt I posted above? Can you not accept the possibility of cultural terrorism?
     
  20. mjark

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    What a terrible thing to happen. Hopefully it won't all have to come down.
     
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