Pau Ferro?

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  1. KoreGeneral

    KoreGeneral Strat-Talker

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    What's with all the Pau Ferro fret boards on fender necks? I want rich dark rosewood.

    Is there a restriction on rosewood or something?
     
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    I'm shocked that someone is a member here and doesn't know about this? CITES has been restricting rosewood since 2017.......it has not been on Mexico or Asian Fender/Squier production since then. Mexico uses Pau Ferro, Squier uses Indian Laurel.....it's been over 3 years....

    https://cites.org/eng

    It's to protect endangered species like rosewood....


    Only Fender USA still uses rosewood.....
     
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  3. Tim S

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    There was an international regulation that required extra paperwork. Some companies did the extra paperwork and others found it cheaper to substitute another wood for rosewood.

    Within the last year, an exception was carved out in the regulations for musical instruments. Once all of the alternate-wood guitars get sold, look for the return of rosewood.
     
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    I doubt it, pau ferro is cheaper than rosewood, the bean-counters at Fender will say no.
     
  5. KoreGeneral

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    I can literally feel the difference and here the difference in sound... I already have the body for my next build so I'll be waiting...

    I didn't know that there were restrictions.

    I need my tone...
     
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    I feel and hear zero difference....I also feel and hear zero difference in body woods........I hear zero difference also between maple and rosewood fretboard Strats......
     
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    Oh you’re just asking to get roasted here with that comment but to each their own lol
     
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    All you need is for someone to apply fiebings leather dye to your board till its pitch black.. then you ll hear..ebony....:D
     
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    I've got two guitars now with pau ferro boards. I think they look cool, feel pretty much identical to my rosewood boards.
     
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    Welcome back my friends to the thread that never ends...
     
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    Richlite baby. Richlite.
     
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    Wood makes a difference in tone on acoustic guitars, with harder woods being brighter and softer woods being darker. These differences are readily apparent when you're talking about the soundboard, and somewhat apparent when you're talking about the back or sides.

    Loads of folks say that on electric guitars the tone follows the neck. The neck is 3/4 of the guitar's vibrating length, so it makes sense it would have a larger effect than the body.

    I've never been able to hear a difference between fretboard materials on a bolt-on maple neck. Maybe on a neck made of softer wood like mahogany you'd be able to hear a difference. Maybe.

    I do have a preference for dark woods on the fretboard. Its a very old tradition, one that predates Europeans knowing about Rosewood. Honestly I don't think I've ever even seen a maple fretboard on an acoustic.
     
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    Been there, done that with my 2000 Gibson rosewood board.
     
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    Plus, Pao Ferro looks great!
     
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    Who gonna roast me? Ive built 2 master strats by myself and soldered all the electronics and then recorded and produced my own album with them.
     
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    People roast Eric Clapton, I doubt you will be spared.
     
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    This is the internet. We do not train to be merciful here...
     
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    SRV had a Pau ferro board on his sig strat... You probably know better though, that guy had terrrrible tone ;)

    I personally don't like the look or feel of PF myself so I totally get why it's not for everyone
     
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    Go with all maple.

    More stable in humidity and temperature fluctuations.

    Save a rain forest. Two and a half million new guitars are made each year, most with rain forest lumber. Builders want the straightest grain and most free of knot wood for fretboards so the prime largest trees are consumed by guitars. Don't create demand for fragile rain forest lumber and the factories won't use it. How much better to use Grown In America (GIA) faster growing lumber and jobs with that MIA guitar?

    Humidity fluctuations



    Temperature fluctuations



    Global Rain Forests vanishing


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