Pau Ferro?

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  1. Anacharsis

    Anacharsis Strat-Talker Platinum Supporting Member

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    No need to look it up. I worked in ecology for a decent part of my career. In the U.S., for instance, far more land is cultivated for animal feed than for people food. It's true that industrial farming is not particularly eco-friendly at all. But meat requires both pasture land and mass farming. The amount of mass farming to support animal feed alone (from hog and chicken feed to "finishing" for beef) is much greater than the amount used for feeding people. It uses about 60% more acreage (127 million for animal feed vs 77 million for food we eat directly) - all with the same mass farming practices and per-acre ecological impacts. So by definition, the impact of eating vegetarian is much lower - because livestock requires greater per calorie "on the plate" farming impact - plus the clearing of pasture land, methane output, antibiotics, etc.

    On a calorie basis, farming and then feeding it to livestock to then feed to people is about 1/10th as efficient as farming and feeding it to people.

    I am not a vegetarian, but I am not a heavy meat eater for many reasons, this being one of them.
     
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    Sorry - showing my age!

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    I'll just leave this here.

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    Wow 10 Pages On such a Topic....... I really dont Know what to say :eek:
     
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    I agree 100% with this. Especially liking dark woods for fretboards. I’ve returned two guitars with really light RW boards because I disliked the look so much.
     
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    I love my Pau Ferro Strat Classic Series 60s....


    But word on the street is the restrictions are going to get a second look at and MIM may be getting Rosewood back sometime soon if not already
     
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    Man I had lots of RW guitars some dark some bright so it’s hard to generalize even with one kind of wood.
    Tried one of the new classic vibes in a store a few weeks ago. These have laurel fretboard and I swear a couldn’t hear or feel anything different than other rosewood fretboards I had. Killer guitars btw
     
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  9. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Senior Stratmaster

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    Purdy... what wood are we looking at?
     
  10. turfdoc

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    Stevie had a pau-ferro board on his #1....
     
  11. turfdoc

    turfdoc Strat-Talk Member

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    Saw it once on a custom Gretsch....
     
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    Helen Keller said the same thing...
     
  13. StratoMutt

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    Why sorry? You are spot on.
     
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    ryunker Senior Stratmaster

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    It is all about the looks. Non rosewood just appears fake, and non desirable to me. Th he CITES thing has 100% curved my guitar buying.

    I really like the import guitars in and about the $500 range, until 2017.
     
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    I have 2 pau ferros. 1 is lovely, streaky with some really dark streaks, and feels lovely. The other is dry dry dry sandy brown. I really don't like that one at all. Overall, I have no problem with pau ferro except that it is really inconsistent.
     
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    Depends on the rosewood, whether it's cheaper and/or softer. There's some hard, dense and expensive rosewoods.
     
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    This is basically politics, as much as anything. Most of the instrument rosewood used to come from plantations, after the Brazilian Rosewood was over harvested.
     
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    Pau Ferro generally is used to refer to Machaerium Scleroxylon, but the common name is used for many other woods, and it is also called Morado, Santos Rosewood or Blovian Rosewood. It was export restricted back in the 80s, but was transported out of Brazil to Bolivia as veneer backing lumber, according to a source I used to buy wood from.
     
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  19. Robert Graf

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    Looks like Ziricote to me. Maybe Bocote.
     
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  20. Neil.C

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    Fretboard woods are also handy for Fender as an extra price differentiator.

    Rosewood on the more expensive US/Custom shop models/Mex sigs.

    PF on the more run of the mill Mex guitars.

    Indian Laurel on the cheapest range - Squier.

    Obviously the fretboard woods will be graded on price so most people will assume the quality goes from the top down.