Honestly, I can't think of anything that seems more loserish than paying a couple hundred bucks for characters/weapons/ships whatever, so that you can go kill/shoot/explode and dominate a video game. I have gotten going again in an online that I played years ago and it's even worse than it was before. Months of grinding and learning the game still is utterly and spectacularly defeated by people just buying 3 50 dollar ships and blowing people up right and left. The idea that the game developers need to make some cash is fine with me, but for goodness sake, either make those Pay To Win ships fight each other, or make the Pay To Win ships less spectacular performers. Sheesh.