Pickups dates on all grey bottoms?

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by ThomasKoch, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. Bazz Jass

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    Thanks a lot for the suggestions - they look nice! But I am actually far more attracted to the ones that look played. Plus it does affect the price if it is in mint condition. The mint are probably better investment object, but I am looking for a guitar that is original but that I can play (and want to play).

    I am still a bit uncertain about the pickups on the 65/66 that I am looking at, they seem right to me. There is one here who thinks they don't look right.
     
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    Honestly guys, I can't see what the difference is. I compared the pickups with all the '66 I can find, and they look the same to me. Some have dates, some don't...

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    The pickups don't look right to me either. Not because m of the spring/surgical tubing but because of the 2 different tones of gray. The gray around the magnets is a bit lighter and there is a line across the pickup where the color transitions to a darker shade. It dosent look correct to my eyes
    I am no expert on vintage grey bottom pickups but the original pickups in my '66 strat don't have that look. Well, I will say they have that but is not nearly that pronounced.
    Also, my pickups have the penciled in date but it is so faint that you can barely see it when you are looking at it up close. No way would you be able to see it in the photo at a distance.
     
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    It might be totally irrational bias, but personally I just don't think I could buy a used guitar from this guy....

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    ... and those guitars look too big to be genuine...
     
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    “Any other comments on the guitar or do you think it looks 100% ok?“

    My comment does not concern the pickups but the “B” neck. Are you good with this smaller neck size? My personal preference is for the larger and more common “C” necks. YMMV.
     
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    In this case (preCBS) A, B and C refer to nut width. A is narrow and rare, B is normal width, and C is incredibly rare and wide.
     
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    Hmmm.. Thank you for educating me on that. I trust that is based on documented figures from Fender records. It certainly doesn’t comport with my, admittedly, anecdotal years of experience (I’m 75-no wait, I turned 76 a couple days ago!). Maybe it’s a memory issue.
     
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    All good! :) Most of us here have "B" on our necks. It's definitely the standard. Here's the educated answer:

    "From GuitarHQ.com


    Neck Width.

    From March 1962 to 1969, Fender marked their necks with an "official" neck width letter at the butt of the neck (in front of the date code). The "B" neck width is the normal width, as used on about 99% of all Fenders from this period. All other sizes were available by special order only. Also all pre-1962 Fender necks have a 1 5/8" nut width (though I'm sure there are some exceptions, but none I have seen).

    A = 1 1/2" wide at the nut.

    B = 1 5/8" wide at the nut (normal size).

    C = 1 3/4" wide at the nut.

    D = 1 7/8" wide at the nut"
     
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    I believe you guys! I said I trusted your info and you responded like I said the opposite. I blamed my old memory! I was sincere. Please re-read and reconsider.

    thank you
     
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    We just have a bit of fun here :) The world needs fun in these crazy times. We all learn something here most days. Me more than anyone I'm sure ;)
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    I've always wondered about that marker 'c' on mine. It's definitely a b width at the nut.
     
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    I assumed it was made in April 65 B.C.
     
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    They are poor people with cheap smartphones trying to make big money with that sale :p
     
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    343524-5877a6799abfcb530d060f6edc925960.jpg Here's the underside of the pickups on my 65. Bridge p'up has a date, neck p'up some smudged writing and nothing on the middle. I'm 99% sure these are all original so it seems to vary even on the same guitar.
     
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