Player Strat Quality

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  1. Leofender

    Leofender Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    I found my Player Stratocaster ok... At first blush. Then after 2 years passed I realised quite a few QC issues were there from the factory. I just assumed it was an relatively expensive instrument, famous brand and would assume to be carefully built and checked prior to being shipped.

    Low E buzz open position.

    Solutions!
    A. paper shim under string on nut. Done. Temporary but works great. Not happy, but thinking of what permanent solution is best!
    B. Super glue and bicarb soda to shim up.
    C. Replace nut and pay $$$ or risk it myself!

    Scratchplate wire loom not trimmed. The coiled mass was messy and pushed on the back of the pups. Caused pup adjustment and tilt issues.
    Solution!
    Cut excess, resolder connections shrink wrap, apply tubes. Done.

    Scratched paint under scratchplate and continued on visible part of top.
    Solutions!
    Repair spot, touch up job? Not done.

    Conductive black paint inside wood body under scratchplate does not conduct electricity!
    Solutions!
    Lay in conductive metallic foil throughout the body cavity. Connect foil layer by screw through/wire to scratchplate ground plane, tremolo claw. Done.

    High E bridge saddle not level.
    Solutions!
    Adjust set screw.
    Adjust all saddle height to eliminate fret buzz. Done.
    Adjust all saddle position to correct intonation. Done.

    Poor clarity and tone problem.
    Solutions!
    Replaced pups with awesome Fat 50s Custom Shop. Done.

    Poor tuning machines.
    Solutions!
    Replaced with new Fender locking tuners. Done.

    Poor strap buttons.
    Solutions!
    Replaced with Shaller straplocks. Done.

    My guitar is better, much better now. I have spent time and money to get my axe to an acceptable standard. It's a personal decision and therefore very subjective. I spend a lot of time and effort to practice and play guitar. It's worthwhile to make that as effective and enjoyable as I can.

    Any advice re E string nut issue is appreciated!
     
  2. elduderinoTF

    elduderinoTF Sweatin' Bullets

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    Didn't you invent the Stratocaster?
     
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  3. Leofender

    Leofender Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    Yes, I see that your comment would be deserving of explanation!
    I got the handle from my affectionate nickname for my guitar.
    Oh, I'm old, but not that old to have been making guitars once... 1954... Like forever!
     
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  4. SonOfLerome

    SonOfLerome Senior Stratmaster

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    Original strats retailed for 250$.
    That’s around 2,500 dollars today.
    So, although 700 or so seems like a lot for a guitar, they’ve actually gone down in price significantly.

    Most of the issues you mentioned (apart from the low cut nut slot) sound like issues i’d expect from a 700$(or 72$ in 1954) guitar.
    Especially setting up the saddles and such, you’d likely have to do the same on any guitar because it’s personal preference based.
    Personally I’ve always thought shielding was a waste of time, just ground to trem claw and be done with it.
    Pickups, also just personal preference/ how you have them set up.
     
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  5. Colnago1

    Colnago1 Senior Stratmaster

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    Just get a new bone nut. The pre-shaped ones are really close and just need adjusting. Go slow and you’ll be fine.
     
  6. myfriendjoe

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    Pre-slotted Graphtech nuts are super easy to work with, leave the slots alone and just sand the bottom to adjust height, and they never need lubrication. Made of a graphite impregnated material that is consistent density throughout. Bone is great too, but needs lube with every string change.
     
  7. Stratafied

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    First time I’ve heard a dissatisfied player owner. But it can happen with anything.
     
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    Bob the builder Most Honored Senior Member

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    Some of the faults are silly
    Strap button's ?
    The tuners are fine on both of mine
    Pickups?... Ok, ya want something different but poor clarity + tone
    Not mine.
    The rest? Oh..ya mean a setup?
    Whodahthunkit?
     
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  9. Leofender

    Leofender Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    Thanks for that advice. Should I look at GRAPHTEC or Fender... I know nothing about nuts... Of the guitar type...
     
  10. Leofender

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  11. Leofender

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    I guess the clarity and tone was ok, I just wanted something sounding FAT and CRISP, with more oomph.
    Sorry, but that should have been explained. The new pups have really transformed the tone into something more glassy, articulate and really very strongly a STRAT sound.
     
  12. Colnago1

    Colnago1 Senior Stratmaster

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    I would just hit Amazon and get a couple of preshaped bone nuts. They’re cheaper than the fender ones and same same to me.
    Get two in case…
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FZ4WD5U/?tag=strattalk05-20
     
  13. Leofender

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    Really appreciate your sharing your experience. I reckon I will follow up and get a new nut from GRAPHTEC.
    The piece of paper looks a bit... meh!
     
  14. Leofender

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    Gee whiz... I never thought of the cost in that way! Appreciate NOW the point from the context you point out!
    Good, very good point!
    Since that you put it that way... I can see how cheap and good value a Fender Player really is... I also had fun ironing out the SMALL links out of my guitar... And feel like that's ok, as it's all good learning stuff as you progress through the journey.
     
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  15. Leofender

    Leofender Strat-Talker Silver Member

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    I just saw a Graphtec online...
    Graph Tech TUSQ XL Guitar Nut for Fender • Curved or Flat • Slotted • Black
    measured my nut width and string to string width...

    It's measurements are:-
    0.95 mm narrow on E TO E strings
    0.9m wide

    Also wonder if BLACK would look ok. The one on there is white, but yes not really fussed about the colour. I reckon black could be rather nice!
     
  16. Leofender

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    You make a good point, they are chest do as to get a spare... In case I muff it up some how!
    Thanks for the tip, really good advice!

    I see there are brass ones that are screww adjustable... Are they worth considering... I like clean crisp tones, and assume this would deliver that, AND BE easy to adjust!
     
  17. Leofender

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    NEW - ABM Height Adjustable Brass Nut For Fender
    On eBay
     
  18. Colnago1

    Colnago1 Senior Stratmaster

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    I have no experience with them, but they do seem nice.
     
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    ThreeChordWonder Senior Stratmaster

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    Somebody paid for a Kia and expected a Mercedes...
     
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    Good luck
     
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