Playing a Gibson through a Fender?

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  1. enchantpth44

    enchantpth44 Strat-Talker

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    Maybe it's just my imagination, but I think a Gibson, dual Humbuckers style guitar, just doesn't sound very good through a certain Fender amp. But it sounds good through a Vox. Fender Single Coils sound good through either or an amp really. Did Fender do something with all their amps that makes them not sound good when using humbuckers style guitars? I mean, do they just never test their amps with Les Pauls in their "labs" etc

    It does seem kind of weird when you think about it, playing a Gibson Les Paul through a Fender Amp, it just seems and actually sounds a bit off... anyone?

    Have you noticed this?

    Gibsons do seem to sound and pair better with Marshalls and Vox, and maybe that is just what it comes down to....
     
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    Dunno about your premise...
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    I've had 5 2 x hummers..
    Could not find the love, millions have...
    So they are right, in that regard...

    There's a lot of lack of talent in my perception...
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    Everyone else will say something more relevant...
     
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    It's the opposite for me...the bestest sound I've ever gotten out of a guitar and amp, was a Les Paul through a blonde Tremolux w/2x10s it almost made me cry it was so good. Next best was SF Super Reverb that I had taken back to BF specs.
    I have never gotten a tone that I liked out of a Marshall, except an old friend had an ancient 50 watt that was pretty good, but not good enough to make me forgo Fender Amps.
    Now...neither of those Fender were exactly high gain amps...classic/Southern rock and Blues territory.
     
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    It's just something I observed in reality when I have been comparing gear, like to me it actually sounds noticeably "better" to play a Les Paul through a vox, then I played the same guitar through a bass breaker and it sounded totally lacking, because I played a Tele and Strat in different models right before and after the LP through that same bassbreaker and they sounded fabulous ....especially the Tele

    Like it really brought that Twang out of the Tele, it made me clue in (in my head I was like that BB circuit was perfectly designed for Tele twang--- thus not for LesPaul scream)

    So it just made me think hmm, maybe it's not so far fetched, it's sort of a "premise" but it's stems from my actual experience

    That same LP was screaming beautifully through an AC15 like you could hear the soul of the HBs

    That's what HB do imo, they are very expressive and it makes the guitar "cry" especially in a blues way. You can't get that same thing with single coils.
     
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    I guess it depends what Fender amp. I don't think the Bassbreaker is indicative of most Fender amps personally.
     
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    I think the tweeds respond better. Just look at Joe Bonamassa, he's playing (mostly) Gibson on Fender amps.
     
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    Yea, the BB is more of a hybrid in sound, it isn't classic Fender, but it sounds good imo. I've tried Blues Deluxe, Twin, Deluxe Reverb, the only one that sounded decent to me was the Twin. I like the sound of Marshall but the Vox AC30 is my fav tbh. I don't even really like the AC15, but the LP sounded very good through it.
     
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    I guess I'll be the guy to say it.

    It ain't the gear, it's the player.

    We all have our preferred type of sound, but a good player can sound good through anything.

    BTW, I love the sound of my Les Pauls through these amps.

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    Couldn't respectfully disagree more. I love the blend myself, I think they compliment each other. I guess it's kind of like cooking.

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    thats kind of odd, the "Gibson" sound for a long time was a LP through a Twin Reverb.
     
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    Everyone's ears are different. We're looking for different sounds, good to you may be bad to me and vise versa. You will get different sounds out of different combos.

    BB King played a Gibson through a Fender Twin. Sounds phenomenal to me. Gary Clark Jr. plays an Epiphone Casino or Gibson SG through Fender amps (he changes it up) and also sounds great to me.
     
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    Gary Richrath of REO Speedwagon used Les Pauls into Fender Twins for most of REOs albums. He used Marshalls live, but all Fender in the studio.

    For me, I find a 'bucker loaded Gibby sounds great into a Fender amp with a fat mid-boosting overdrive pedal between them.
     
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    Just be perverse I usually play a Fender through a Gibson!

    53 refin Tele into a 59 Gibson GA8 - great combination.
     
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    Every electric I’ve tries through my Deluxe Reverb clone sounds amazing.
     
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    I couldn't disagree more. I think it's the opposite. The history of Rock & Roll says otherwise.
     
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    I think it's psychosomatic.

    Next time, when you try the Bassbreaker, and you switch from a Strat or Tele to a Les Paul, try turning the knobs on the amp.

    You say that a Les Paul sounds great through a Vox or a Marshall, well the Bassbreaker, being an EL84 amp, is much more in the Vox/Marshall camp than the classic Fender camp.
     
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    I believe Mick Taylor was playing a Gibson (either his Les Paul or a 335) through a Fender amp when he recorded “Can’t You Hear Me Knocking?” And for me, that’s the holy grail tone I’ll be chasing for the rest of my life.
     
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    I believe that some really classic tones have been produced with a LP through a tweed deluxe.

    I second ebidis: you have to work the knobs and maybe even change input (do BBs have two inputs?). Settings that work for Tele won't necessarily work for LP
     
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    The BB has only one input, but has a 3 stage gain switch (low, mid, or high), and master volume.
     
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