Please!!! Everyone!! Please DISPERSE!!

Discussion in 'DIY Amp Forum' started by Dadocaster, Jun 14, 2021.

  1. stratelespaul

    stratelespaul Strat-O-Master

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    Edge of stage monitors or better yet, in ear monitors.
     
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  2. Jmart1212

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    Monitors or maybe some small side-shot stage speakers. My bandmates opt for in ears, I always request a monitor, I'm old school like that. Other friends in different bands just go from their amps really loud, but I'd rather have my amp controlled, everyone mixed down, and let the mains do the work.
     
  3. ido1957

    ido1957 Senior Stratmaster

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    Get a tilt stand and blow it towards your head. That's where your ears are.
    If the audience can't hear it with a tilt stand, mic it or line it out to the FOH.
     
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    If you're being heard out front but not on stage, it means it's shooting past your legs. Put the amp on a stand, or even a chair...tilt the sh*t out of it, or mic it and wedge monitor through the pa. In ear works good too, as long as you take care to manage volume so as to not blow the top of your head off.
     
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    What, the backs of your knees don't hear so well?:eek:

    I have my PRRI on tilt back legs which helps immensely in hearing, especially the highs that I wrongly assumed were missing until I pointed at my head. It also doesn't need to be turned up as loud. Also, if I'm backed against a wall (which seems to happen a lot) I tilt it back AND turn it around so that it's throwing the sound up and off the wall. You don't lose any volume or frequencies, the sound just gets dispersed better. Way easier on the front row.

    In ear monitors can solve all problems, but they're a whole lot of money and an adjustment.
     
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    I would mic my amp. If they have a PA for the vocals, they should have a PA for you too. And any respectable establishment that provides a PA should provide a monitor, and how much you hear yourself will be adjustable by whoever runs sound.

    I run without monitors, because I run just a two piece group with very low stage volume. But anything above that, especially with a real drum set, a monitor is really a must.
     
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    The tilt is the way to go.
    There's a company called StandBack.
    Hardly anything to lug around and works to perfection.

     
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    That was my thought. It's the 'ol angle issue.
     
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    I'm all for a good cab but if the problem statement is simply to hear it reliably on stage, mic whatever you have and drive it through your monitor. You should know that as a rule close backed cabs tend to be directional and even if you get one that you can hear your bandmates very possibly won't. Or at least not the way they really need to. I have found that a good monitor mix to be the best and most reliable solution to this problem, and it has the advantage of separating the mix you need to hear from the band's main mix.
     
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    Half of just one of the bricks in this wall would do the trick.
     
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    In ear monitor?
     
  14. Dadocaster

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    Absolute truth but probably not attainable for the genre and venues I am expecting to play. My expectation is that it will be up to me to figure out optimal set up.
     
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    Well that's just fine for nursing homes but what could a guy use for a gig?
     
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    Headphones.

    Reduce the crowd noise, and hear your amp at the same time. Remove one headphone for a sample of ambient mix.
     
  17. Dadocaster

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    Nope. Won't work.

    Might do something like a fat version of this:

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    Beaming is really bad with sealed cabs, open back was a good choice.

    in ears works, but is not needed with a small venue, is the band playing as appropriate for that venue?
    Sounds like you may be flat out underpowered. Or band mates a bit to loud,
    I work with a drummer who has a golden eared wife, she walks the room the first few songs points to someone with up or down, and by the time she smiles the room mix is a good as it gets, everyone can hear themselves and each other.
    provided no board.
    She works the ,foh board as well, if the venue supports such.

    having a good ear In the room is very helpful. Band mates that trust that person even more so.

    just a few ideas.
     
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    Yeah, all yall give great advice but I am part of an impossibly small minority, Late Deafened Cochlear Implant users. So, a bunch of the things suggested would work great for regular folks but my cyborg thing make several of the usual problems much worse. The transducer for the implant is tiny, like hearing aid sized, so beaming is my arch enemy. With a single little transducer on one side of my noggin, the sweet spot to stand in get's very very small. This is why I am thinking hard about cabinets. I am thinking a fat/square 2 x 12 with a bit of angle to the baffle and open back. I think it would give me the biggest sweet spot. I really probably should be in the garage building that cab but I am feeling lazy.
     
  20. Chipss36

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    C233FEE5-77D6-4BE3-AABC-0C4A22B8CE6A.jpeg Inspiration!