Please help identify these pickups on a '79 strat

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  1. henq

    henq New Member!

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    Hi guys,
    I recently bought this strat from 1979. I believe the pickups are not original, but somewhere in time got replaced. Or is it even possible they are original? The seller couldn't give me more info.
    The bobbins say 016730, wich are used on several fender PU's. There's another number on the neck pickup but can't read it clearly. I believe it says either 20901, 20981, 20981 or 20987 (see picture).
    Could you guys guess what they are?
    Thanks!

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  2. Guitarmageddon

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    Welcome to the forum!!

    They are original....they were transitioning from the fiber bobbin pickups to these around that era....

    These have the hotter X1 bridge pickup, in the 7K range while the neck and middle are in the mid to 5K range....
     
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    Great, I was hoping for that.
    thank you for your quick response.
     
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    The change to plastic bobbins happened in 1980.
    If the guitar is "from 1979" then the pickups are not original to the guitar.
    Also, a full size aluminum shield plate would not be original to any 1979 or 1980 Straocaster.
    The inclusion of an X1 bridge pickup was an even later running change for regular production Stratocasters (late 1980 or 1981).

    What's more likely is that this guitar is from 1980 or later, and/or that the pickups have been swapped.

    Are there any Avery labels (stickers) in the body routings ?
    I can't read the pot date codes in the photos, can you show or post them ?
    Does this have a 3 hole microtilt neckplate ?

    Note that the "S9" SN# series were used well past 1979.
     
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    CB91710 This is a Custom Title Gold Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    This.
    I believe it appeared as late as 1981, so the pickups could be original.
    The neck date code would possibly tell more.

    But yes, the shield is not original, that era just had a foil sticker over the control cavity (and often lacked a separate ground wire to the tone pots)
     
  6. henq

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    Here are some more photo's. It does has a 3 bolt neckplate. Strange enough the neckstamp is missing, wich I know happens like 1/1000 thimes, but still it's suspicious.

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    It looks original and unmolested, other than the pickguard shield.
    The pickguard should have a sticker matching the one in the neck pocket, normally on the lower cutaway horn.
    The capacitor is right for the era.
     
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    fenderkev Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I had a '79 hardtail Strat just like yours, colour and all many moons ago. The pups were fibre bobbin and from memory didn't sound anything special. I agree that it's a loaded pickguard from a 81/82 Strat. I have to say your '79 is in remarkably good condition, although it does look kosher from what I can see in the pics.
     
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