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Practical Music Workshop #8 - Jazzy Eights (Two Chords, Two Modes)

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  1. fezz parka

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    Right where he should have been IMO. The first part of West End Blues seals that deal. :)
     
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    fezz parka Making a record.... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    This is kind of off topic...but if you haven't heard/seen this....its worth it:

     
  3. Alan L Cole

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    Thank you for posting that E, I really enjoyed it and found it informative. I've been following the recent discussions to date.

    Edit - removed some early morning fog.
     
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    All six Bernstein lectures are on yootoob. They are really worth the time spent.
     
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  5. davidKOS

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    Great point.

    Interesting you mention the Hawaiian influence, which is currently being reevaluated by scholars.

    That opening "cadenza" is both simple...and yet it's almost impossible to play the way Louis actually performed it, the feel and groove is so amazing.
     
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  6. dogletnoir

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    Thanks for posting that, @fezz parka !
    i watched that entire one last night, and i will definitely be checking out the others.
     
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    @Thrup'ny Bit,
    i was thinking about your question this morning, and i came up with a bit (LOL) of an answer:

    Bb Lydian and D Mixolydian, while not major scales per se, are major modes of our parent keys which would start on those notes
    (Bb Lydian is the 4th mode of F major, while D Mixolydian would be the 5th mode of G Major).
    This is all still coming from basic diatonic harmony, as @fezz parka would say, and two chords/two modes is still the basic idea here.
    i used that 'major modal' concept as the departure point for the melodic content on this one... then got a bit loose with it.
    Strict discipline isn't my strong suit before my 2nd cup of coffee.
    :D
     
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  8. davidKOS

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    Yes indeed, but even I found them to be so dense with musical material that they are a rich mental dish to digest.

    Well worth the effort, though.
     
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  9. Andrew Wasson

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    Hi guys,
    It's been a madhouse around here, trying to wrap up work things and pack up for a trip to Europe (All over England, France and up to Inverness Scotland) so I had to do my contribution in between things. This is about as clean as I could get it.




    I'm flying out this afternoon so I'll catch up with you all online.

    Cheers,
    Andrew
     
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    Hi everyone. I'm Omar, your old forum friend. Did you miss me? LOL

    My take is full of anger, disappointment, frustration and stress, you will notice that. I hope you enjoy it :D

     
  11. fezz parka

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    And your overall vocabulary will improve as well. Remarkably intelligent dude was ol Lenny.
     
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    well that was pretty engaging... and now on to syntax...
     
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    The same guy has all six. Its mind expanding. Sans hallucinogens.
     
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    yes
     
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    So I'm breaking my rule of not listening before I do mine since we haven't heard from you in so long.

    That was awesome...very tastefully done IMHO. I heard no anger, disappointment, frustration, or stress...I heard joy. Listening to this made me smile, truthfully.
     
  16. montemerrick

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    leonard-bernstein.jpg
     
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    I miss you all too...myself as well...I’ll be back very soon!
    Thank you so much my friend! I’m glad to hear that :) I don’t know if I can call it one listen and one go. I played without thinking too much :D
     
  18. dogletnoir

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    @Andrew Wasson,
    This is a great take and one well worth waiting for, with a cool theme and neat solo work.
    There's something that feels very Jeff Beck-like here in the way you're using the pentatonics and modes
    against the underlying chords, and i especially liked the way the chords and melody worked together
    on what you played at around 2:11.
    :thumb: :thumb:

    People, did you notice something different about this one?
    Andrew is playing a diminished chord instead of the Major 6, and just taking one note and dropping it
    down a half step (from D to Db on the BbMaj6 and from E to Eb for the CMaj6 using a Freddie Green style
    voicing on strings 3, 4, and 6) changes the whole sound and feel of the tune.

    Reharmonization... remember that word.
    :whistling:
     
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    Diminished chords are handy when you want to move between two different scales, as I was taught by Howard Morgen :D
     
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    They're also quite useful when I forget what chord I'm supposed to be playing... :p
     
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