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Discussion in 'Amp Owners Clubs' started by mutato, Feb 11, 2011.
Let's see it!
Give me a little time, tonight or tomorrow evening and I will try and get a picture up.
I have 3...a 1965 with a mojotone speaker (I have the original too), a 1972 stock (except for "new" power cord), & a 1968 which I put into a custom cabinet with an old JBL 15" Bass speaker. All are for sale BTW.
You guys all suck, and yes, I'm just saying that because I'm jealous.
I got Princeton envy.
Still love my modded CVR, and hope to have it for ever, but gassing for a Princeton, or two, or three, or more. I really like the '65 PRRI. But then the new MIM '68 SF is killer too. And that Fudge Brownie is delectable as well. Plus then there's all the fancy-shmancies, like the white / surf green combo, and the white/ sonic blue combo. And that orange tolex one that Jim Campilongo has. And those sparkley ones...
Yeah, you guys suck.
I'm in. Great amps!! 65 PRRI.
Sorry to be late. We've had an illness in the family and then work has kept me from snapping a few pictures. I am going to try and upload 3 pictures, two inside and 1 outside to show the color based upon lighting. I am not a photographer.
Way sparkley that red one. Sorry to hear of the illness in your family, and hope everybody is OK. But yup, your a bugger too, showing off something so fantastic. My GAS is really flaring up now.
Is there a pill for this?
Funny The only cure I have found is to save the money and buy what we are looking for. I put money away for several years for my hobbies. Those are water skiing (barefooted), riding motorcycle, and of course musical equipment. I hit a couple of years where my bike riding and water skiing activities slowed down. That allowed me to take my hidden cash and put it on the Princeton and a Strat. I have to say I am a lucky man as my wife would tell me to go ahead and buy whatever I was looking at and to not worry about hiding my money. She caught me....
And thanks for the wishes for my wife. We are still seeing a specialist and as of yesterday are being referred to another out of state. Things are looking up.
My wife's cool with it too. In fact I just bought this all original 1966 Princeton this morning!!! I'm back in the club!!!!! It's all original except for a couple pre-amp tubes, and it's got the Jenson C10N, never been re-coned, and has much life left!!! Can you tell I'm excited?
I looked long and hard for the right seller. Got it from a real knowledgeable dealer that says it's 10 out of 10, very grail-like.. no need to lie, it has a 36 hour return period no questions asked. Can't wait to get it..
OK one more pic..
Nice score I am sure you will give it a good test drive when it arrives. I bet she sounds good.
We are lucky to have such wonderful women in our lives.
Just got this one last week. (one of these days I'll get a proper camera...).
It came with this...
...And now it has this (10F150)
As you can see, its one of the "limited editions", but the only difference is the color and a P10Q instead of a C10Q. Pure marketing hype, but it didn't cost any more and its all they had (got it for $200 off). I would have actually preferred the black and silver, but this looks nice enough and maybe some rube might pay more for the LE badge if I ever decide to sell it (I sure wouldn't).
So anyway, I get it home, plug it in, and I absolutely........ hate it. No chime, no glass, just sludge like it was immersed in a barrel of tar sands oil. I couldn't believe it! If this is how a Princeton is supposed to sound, then I don't want any part of it.
Now for the funny story.
I plugged it in to my pedal arrangement, which includes a Fender reverb, a TC Spark Boost and a Radial Big Shot ABY. Output A was already occupied by my 5E3, so I just plugged into output B not realizing that the the ISO switch (isolation transformer) was flipped on, which is necessary if your going to operate the 180 switch to make sure both amp speakers are in phase. This can cause a darker tone, but with my other amps it's a slight change that's easily corrected with a little more treble to compensate. Not so with the Princeton. The difference was HUGE and no amount of EQing could make it sound good.
I'm embarrassed to admit how long it took to figure this out, but it was long enough for a speaker change before I put the Jensen back in and just plugged straight into the amp. Voila! The blackface goodness came shinning through, or at least a lot of it, but the speaker wasn't quite right to my ears. I know, you're supposed to let them break in, but I have a broken in P10R I could never dial in, so I figured the P10Q wouldn't be much different. The 10F150 was enthusiastically recommended to me by the owner of my favorite shop (Action Music, Falls Church, VA), so I went with it.
The Weber was definitely an improvement. Bigger, more balanced tone and not so spikey bright, allowing me more range with the tone control. However, the amp still wasn't quite there. It sounded a bit stiff and constricted somehow, like I had to fight to get the notes out, so I checked the bias and sure enough it was running cold. I've heard Fender does that on purpose to preserve the tubes through the warranty period. I forget what the original setting was, but my calculations determined it should be around 22ma and it was well below that. I biased it on the hot side (24ma), but not so hot that it's any where near redplatting. In fact, I turned bias pot all the way up to where it was reading 30 ma and ran it that way for awhile and still no redplatting. That stiffness is now gone and the notes jump right out.
So, we're 90% there and the coup de grace to bring it home was an NOS GE 12ax7 in the VI preamp. Now we're rocking and its only going to get better as speaker breaks in. The superb tremolo and reverb means no more pedals. It feels great just to plug right in to an amp and have all the tone you want without any external processing.
That, folks, is my Princeton story and I'm loving the amp now after a pretty rocky start!
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm not blown away by the Gold, either with the Princeton, which I tried briefly, or with my custom built blackface voiced amp, or with my champ, or my 5e3. I'd like to run it in a separate cab and see if it grows on me. Need to get a cab first... To me it just doesn't sound all that special. Not bad, certainly, but for the money, not great either.
New '68 Princeton Reverb custom. Happy Birthday to me!
Looked, compared, thought, over-thought about the best amp for me to replace my modded Blues Jr. Really liked the Fender SuperSonic 22, The DRRI, and the '65 Princeton. Came down to this: didn't want to carry around the 40+ lbs. of the larger amps, even though both had great sonic tone appeal. The '65 is iconic in tone, with some potential future need to tighten up the bottom end and tweak the break up. The '68 is not a SF clone, and with the Bassman tone stack, and nice distortion build up had real appeal. The taut, full low end is mesmerizing and really won me over. It is slightly "dark", but I think a nice higher end 10" WGS, Weber, or Tone Tubby may be all I need (at this time) to open her up a bit, and gain a tad of clean headroom.
Very happy with my decision. This amp takes pedals SOOO much better than my Blues Jr. Usng an OD with gain off as a volume boost really adds some elbow room when gigging with my buddy and his DRRI.
Congrats, Bob. I also agonized between the two, but ended up going the other way with the 65. Great amps either way.
I just want to pipe in here that I'm loving my 65 Reissue more and more as I've been doing some recording of different styles on it for fun. It's sounding great even at the super low volume I'm working at in my home studio, between 2 and 3. It's crazy. I'm posting videos here - http://www.strat-talk.com/forum/mymusic-forum/323209-randins-midlife-crisis-cover-song-series.html.