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  1. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Counting headlice on the highway Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Oh I know, couple of years ago I even posted a video explaining her art on this site. I very much doubt anyone clicked on the video, but a lot of people got together in hatred for her.

    Funny enough I titled the thread, Are you Open minded?
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/are-you-open-minded.459466/
     
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  2. archetype

    archetype Senior Stratmaster

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    Love ‘em. They’re trashy fun. Do it.
     
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    Mansonienne Mod admin Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Yeah, I have a pretty good idea why...and I'm sure I enjoyed the show a lot at the time...;)
     
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  4. AxemanVR

    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    While I too have my biases, I always remind myself that all (western) music is based on the same notes and, what I find most intriguing, is the fact that so many styles have been developed using the same basic formula.

    In other words; Without simplicity you cannot have complexity!

    That doesn't mean we have to settle for simplicity, but we should give it the reverence it deserves and realize that even a relatively simple tune can be profoundly inspiring...



    Richard Strauss (no doubt with some help from Pythagoras) took the most basic elements of Western music and created a hair raising masterpiece!



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  5. davidKOS

    davidKOS playing, teaching, recording Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Exactly...no light, no dark, no yin, no yang....it's about balancing drama.

    Plus I had a teacher that said "Don't get a big head...whatever you do has most likely been done and been done better".

    And the Eastern musics work along similar principles is along varied paths. It's likely been done before by some past, even now unknown, master or mistress. (Wave to Hildegard of the European Middle Ages and Lady Dilhayat
    https://www.academia.edu/14619563/T...kish_Makam_Usage_after_the_Ottoman_Golden_Age )

    But everything old is new again. :p

    If one can express their musical emotion with simple, direct, passionate and honest motifs, then why make anything more deliberately complex than needed?

    The flip side is that complex ideas and emotions may need complex musical expression.


    I also do not want to subvert a thread about the interest of fans of 70's punk and beginning new bands. As I say, I have no dog in this hunt. The thread has been interesting but I want the folks that love the music to contribute.



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  6. nungesser

    nungesser When I became of age my momma sat me down Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The Clash and The Sex Pistols both attribute The Ramones as their inspiration to start their own punk bands
     
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    Loved much of it at the time, and most of that, I still do.
     
  8. HCarlH

    HCarlH Strat-Talk Member

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    That is not the definition of closed minded....which is filtering out and not giving something a chance.

    I remember reading an interview with Joey Ramone about his band and he basically said they were a reaction against "crap like Kansas".
    Sounds pretty closed minded to me if that's what you mean.

    At least Johnny Rotten was in on the scam. :D

     
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    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I like the Ramones.
    I like Kansas.
    I like Fear.
    I like Gentle Giant.
    I like the Minutemen.
    I like Yes.
    I like the Dead Kennedy's.
    I like Genesis. Both the Gabriel and Collins eras.
    I like the Stooges.
    I like ELP.

    You know who is doing some good punk styled music right now? Dadocaster. :D
     
  10. circles

    circles Resident Pinball Enthusiast Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Never really followed them.

    I do love little baby ducks, old pickup trucks, slow-movin' trains and rain.
     
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    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    My older cousin used to let me pound away on his drums when I was a kid, I still have fun memories of doing that! He ended up in several LA punk bands in the 70's, The Germs, The Weirdos, Mau Mau's, The Dickies and The Cramps off the top of my head. That plus the punk movement so I had a fair amount of exposure.

    Wanted to like it, tried to like it, but it just didn't do anything for me, it didn't speak for me and most important it didn't move me at all. Didn't analyze it then I just didn't get it nor liked it. I liked the Ramones the least. Not knocking anyone who does btw, if that's your thing then I support you 100%.

    Sorry.
     
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  12. Dadocaster

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    The Cramps??,
     
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    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    The Cramps. It was an inventive time for band names, some I'm sure can't get posted here.
     
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    Nick Knox?
     
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    Nah, I was being impressed. Love The Cramps.
     
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    I like me Fuzztones!

     
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    But the Cramps weren't a L.A. band. At least not in the 70s. They showed up in the 80's in L.A.
     
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    Awwwww....
     
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    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Brad...you dig the Fleshtones?

    You have them in you too:

     
  20. Antstrat

    Antstrat Senior Stratmaster

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    From wikipedia:

    Nickey played drums for The Cramps from 1991 to 1993.[9]
     
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