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  1. davidKOS

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    I can deal with that.
     
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    I might not be angry enough. Maybe call the band The Miffed.
     
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    Interesting theory.

    One of the main facets of punk, over here at least, was the idea that anyone could start a band.

    In an issue of Sniffin' Glue, a punk fanzine of the time, there was a page with just scrawled chord boxes for A - D- E with the message, "now start a band".

    Punk was essentially a DIY proposition over here. Learn as you play, start your own label to get the music out, a category that non of the above maestros fit into.

    That said, they were all rebels in their own way.
     
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    If you only look at the music...then yeah. But in my view, it's not just about the musical content. It's a philosophical thing...deeper than just the musical genre. Anti-authoritarianism, freedom of thought...individualism. Woody Guthrie was a punk. John Steinbeck was a punk. ;)

    I especially believe that Armstrong and later Bebop was a rebellion. A reaction to the purist Moldy Figs. That's in-line with punk rock as a reaction to the hippies.

    Punk String Theory. LOL
     
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    Yes.

    And the wheel rolls on...
     
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    Punk rock celebration?
     
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    Noses Out Of Joint
    The Twisted Knickers
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    The Famines were an amazing band. To simply think of them as bunch of guys thrashing away for 2 minutes a song does a great disservice. Listen, you will hear the sounds of 50s pop, 60s surf, hard rock, and yes punk and thrash. Their music is quite varied and textured and they earned their place among the greats.
     
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    The Vaguely Irked......
     
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    Lol....thanks man that made my morning.

    Nope, one has to draw the line somewhere. No Barry Manilow either.....:rolleyes:
     
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    You came along.... just like a song
    and brightened my day.....

    :D
     
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    Speaking of the punk/blues connection..

    Jack White got it.
     
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    Ramones, not famines. Darn auto correct.
     
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    It's punk that everyone just accepted that "The Famines" was a real band name.
     
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    I totally did.
     
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    Btw I saw this a couple of years ago on Fender's website and liked it a lot. Basic stuff but anyway

     
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    Very much represented my way into music as a young lad.

    Mostly into UK stuff, not much knowledge of US bands from the time. Fond of 80s/90s “SoCal” scene also.

    I think in the end I felt the ideology was too limiting and anti-intellectual for my liking, but what a load of great music!
     
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    Punk Rock: Let’s talk about it

    How about : Let’s Not!

    Back then I didn’t care for it at all. I was trying to learn how to play the guitar. Still working on that. Anyway I looked at records as my lessons. Locked up with a guitar and my record player was all I had. The records I bought and listened to were my teachers. I didn’t hear the lesson of/in Punk music. It sounded like people that were pissed off cause they couldn’t play there instruments but wanted to be famous anyway. I’m sure there are exceptions to that rule but I wasn’t going looking for them. I wasn’t angry or had anything to rebel against. I liked the guys that made fancy records that the Punks were rebelling against.... well not all of them. If I wanted 3 chord Rock Bachman Turner Overdrive sounded just fine with me. I had to many lessons to learn to even bother with Punk Rock...
     
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    For me it all comes down to "redundancy"...

    Sure, Punk music is not exactly what most of us would consider to be intellectually stimulating (for lack of a better phrase), but for me it also depends on whether the so-called artists who are creating the music can continue to come up with clever and interesting twists within that very narrowly defined genre - which would be quite a challenge if you ask me.

    I personally would rather do something more like what Paul McCartney did with "Helter Skelter", which was to create something that could easily fit within the definition of "Punk" music by today's standards - yet you'd be hard pressed to call the Beatles a "Punk Band" since they also did stuff like "Hey Jude".

    So, while I do acknowledge the Ramones' rightful place in music history, I personally would never want to be type-casted into being known solely as creator of Punk music (or Heavy Metal or Country or Rock or Jazz...) and am compelled to create whatever I want to create in any musical style, as I wish, at any given whim - which is why I have enthusiastically embraced practically every style you can imagine, much like my mentors the Beatles did before me.

    Of course that can be very difficult to pull off in today's world - Let us not forget the troubled story of Metallica...

    Once an audience labels you, it can be very difficult to try something different without risking a backlash from your fan base and when Metallica moved away from their Speed Metal roots they had to endure a great deal of grief from people who felt like they were being betrayed. I applauded the move myself, since I was starting to get pretty bored with the million-notes-per-measure format they were originally known for.

    Anyway, my point is that a little bit of Punk is fine and even has its place, but I certainly wouldn’t want make it the center on my musical universe either...



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    The Ramones are from Queens

    So was Johnny Thunders

    So they cool-
     
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