Questions about polarity/hum problems for SD ssl1/ssl5 pickups

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  1. sheephearder

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    I’m a total noob in guitar and I’m trying to juice up my new squire affinity Strat with the seymore Duncan pickups. I’ve been reading up on them and apparently you can run into polarity and hum issues with these pickups. Right now I have ordered two ssl1 vintage for the neck and middle and an ssl5 for the bridge. Should I swap out the ssl1 vintage for an ssl1 rwrp in the middle position to avoid phase/polarity problems and hum in positions 2 and 4? Thanks in advance!
     
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    You'll want your SD middle pickup to be rw/rp if you want hum cancelling in positions 2 and 4.
     
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    Thanks man. So the setup should be this, right?
    Neck: ssl1 vintage
    Middle: ssl1 vintage rwrp
    Bridge: ssl5
     
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    Hi, @sheephearder

    Welcome ! Yeah, SSL-1 vintage Rwrp for middle pickup.
     
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    Thanks big time guys. One thing I’ve read is that adding the middle rwrp middle might take some “quack” out of positions 2 and 4. I don’t know which is worse, presence of hum with regular middle or reduced quack with the rwrp.
     
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    Hi, @sheephearder
    Part of consideration would be how much amp or pedal gain/drive would you be using generally?

    Without the RWRP middle, there is some of 60 cycle hum in all 5 switch positions
    Unless switch to a stacked noiseless single coils or full size bridge humbucker with its 2 magnets.
     
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    im just using a small home amp, the Yamaha THR5 10 watt desktop combo amp.

    If there is hum in all 5 positions it definitely seems better to go with the rwrp middle. I’m going to go with the rwrp middle, just wondered about the quack issue.
     
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    im just using a small home amp, the Yamaha THR5 10 watt desktop combo amp.

    If there is hum in all 5 positions it definitely seems better to go with the rwrp middle. I’m going to go with the rwrp middle, just wondered about the quack issue.
     
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    Sorry double post
     
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    No reduced quack. I trust my ears, and mine alone. I changed to RWRP, and no quack was lost. SSL-1s & 5s both.
     
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    Hi, @sheephearder

    I understand :) I think having that less hum option is good.
     
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    Sweet, that’s great to hear, thanks. I’m looking forward to these new pickups.
     
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    The hotter SSL-5 in the bridge will give you plenty of quack in pos.2.
     
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    Here’s another noob question. I thought position 2 was just pickups 1 and 2? I thought it went like this.

    position 1: pickup 1
    position 2: pickup 1+2
    position 3: pickup 2
    position 4: pickup 2+3
    position 5: pickup 3
     
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    I have a set I of SSL 1’s and really like having the middle RWRP. There’s plenty of quack with these pickups trust me. There’s no loss.

    great choice in pickups dude! They are one of my favorites. They give you THE gold standard strat tone from which single coils are compared against (ie 50’s single coils )
     
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    I believe the neck alone is position 5, neck/middle is position 4, and so on.
     
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    Yes, you are correct.

    With the SSL-5, the pups will not be like a calibrated set. You may lose a bit of quack in pos.4.
     
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    It's only a "problem" if you want hum cancelling in positions 2 and 4. This is current usual practice but not required for a functioning strat, they came without rwrp middles for a few decades as standard after all.

    The tonal difference will be slight, and you may prefer it one way or the other.