Random guitar/music wisdom

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  1. fezz parka

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    That cuts both ways.

    Some think they are much better than they actually are.

    But when you...let's say ask them to play over Monk's 'Round Midnight...they fail horribly. And then blame the changes instead of taking the time to learn them.
     
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    So good...the site posted it twice.
     
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    You travel in different circles than I do, boss. :D
     
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    That was right here on Strat-Talk. ;)
     
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    Must have missed that. Somebody wants me to do something over 'Round Midnight I'm going to do a few bars of McFerrin falsetto and then run out the front door.
     
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    Naw...you didn't participate. But you saw it. And the fallout after. :D
     
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    lbpesq Strat-Talker

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    Excellent advice! You will get as much out of playing one hour with others as you will playing ten hours by yourself. And you will get as much out of playing one hour on stage with others as you will playing ten hours rehearsing with them.

    Bill, tgo
     
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    Anacharsis Strat-Talker Platinum Supporting Member

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    I encourage people to trust themselves, but then also challenge themselves. Trust the music that you want to make, but challenge yourself to try to hear it like other people hear it.

    Also, trust the way you like to learn. Some people learn by copying songs. Some learn by getting a solid understanding of how music is constructed. Some learn by running scales and learning chord shapes. Most do some combination of the above and more.

    Be skeptical of know-it-alls. They don't know it all. Even if they are highly accomplished, what they really know is what worked for them.
     
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  9. montemerrick

    montemerrick no earthly reason why

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    "The music is played for love,
    Cruising is made for love"

    - Smokey R., America's poet of love.
     
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    Anacharsis Strat-Talker Platinum Supporting Member

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    Oh, and some (non-canonical) music language/theory shorthand: Talking music isn't that hard. Many people just like having the inside track on easily explained jargon, so they don't take the 10 minutes required to explain it.

    A scale is just a set of notes chosen for the creation of music.

    Western music is (but has not always been) based on a 12 tone equal temperament chromatic (meaning all notes available in the system) scale. Equal temperament means that the frequency of each note is a fixed multiple of the note directly "below" it in the chromatic scale.

    Subsets of notes taken from the chromatic scale upon which the system of music is based are also called scales. Most common scales use a subset of 7 notes from the set of 12, though some use fewer.

    Scales of the same type (e.g. major, minor) all have the same pattern of steps between intervals, just starting at a different point in the cycle. That pattern gives the scale and the chords based off of it a characteristic sound. Mapped to a guitar, a full "step" is two frets. A half "step" is one fret.

    A major scale starts at the note that gives it its name (for example, C) and goes: full step (D), full step (E), half step (F), full step (G), full step (A), full step (B), half step (C).
    A minor scale starts at the note that gives it its name (for example, A) and goes: full step (B), half step (C), full step (D), full step (E), half step (F), full step (G), full step (A).

    The minor is, incidentally, the same pattern as in major, just starting at a different point along the cycle. That's why the notes in the above examples are all the same. Each minor scale has all the same notes as a major scale with a different "tonal center," and is called that major scale's "relative minor." So the example shows that A minor is the relative minor of C major.

    Center the step pattern anywhere else along the line, and you get what are called "modes." Many modes are used by guitarists, but the one most frequently used by rock and blues players is the Mixolydian mode. Using the above example, the same set of notes creates a Mixolydian mode when centered around G. (G-A-B-C-D-E-F).

    (Both the major and minor scales have mode names as well: major is Ionian, minor is Aeolian. Mode names are references to Ancient Greece).

    What step a note falls at in a scale or mode is called its "degree," designated by an ordinal number. So G is the "5th" degree in the C scale. An interval is the distance (difference in pitch) between two notes, also described as an ordinal number. C to F is a "perfect fourth." That can be confusing if it isn't just laid out as two different but related things. When someone talks about playing an interval, they often mean playing both notes at once in a chord, or perhaps one after the other in a line.

    A major pentatonic scale is just a regular seven note major scale with the 4th and 7th degrees removed.
    A minor pentatonic scale is just a regular seven note minor scale with the 2nd and 6th degrees removed.

    There are also what are called blues scales, major and minor, and a bunch of other scales. But they're all human constructions chosen by people to whom they sounded good in a given musical context. There are variants of the minor scale, (natural, melodic, harmonic), but don't let that confuse you. You'll understand their purpose over time, but when most people say "minor," they mean the type that conforms to the A minor scale listed above.

    A composition based on a scale and resolving (returning) to the base note of that scale is said to be in that key. "In C major" just means built off of the notes in the C major scale.

    Almost all chords for guitar are written "wrong" on sheet music for easy readability. The notes don't in reality neatly stack like they do for typical piano chords. Almost all guitar music is also written one octave above where it actually sounds, in order for it to fit into another arbitrary choice - the treble clef.

    Don't get hung up on why C is the "center" of Western music instead of A. It's a historical artifact owing to the types of music that were most prominent in the West around a thousand years ago, and that's all.
     
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    (1) All notes are important and deserve to be played correctly. If they aren't then they should not be in the piece at all. Better a rest than a poorly rendered/fretted/missed note.

    (2) That said in a live situation you can get away with a lot by pretending you meant to play that sour note you just chucked out there, so long as it fits the rhythm/tempo of the song.
     
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    Drive and determination, dedication to your goal whatever it may be
    OFC steady practice, like everyday the more hours the better, but consistency is key in progress
    And most important is that your enjoying yourself along your journey :)
    That’s my 2 cents anyways
     
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    Don't just learn licks, learn to play play rhythm too... properly.
     
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    Yes.

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