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  1. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    I want to be able to switch playing tracks on demand with a footswitch. Basically turning my DAW into a looper on steroids. Not knowing much about MIDI and the electrical interface I am not sure how to get from MIDI to USB. Behringer makes a nice unit at a good price (USD) but I do not see that is has USB. Pace does have a unit with USB but almost 40% more costly. I am not sure if I would use the expression pedals or not. They do intrigue me some as to how to could be utilized.

    My current setup is a Katana 100, I have the footswitch controller for the Katana and the expression pedal. The Kat goes into a FocusRite Scarlet 2i2 which in turn is connect USB to my PC.

    Any suggestions on how to get this accomplished is certain most appreciated. I will Thank the brain trust now in advance.

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    With something like this?

    https://m.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_mp_100_midi_foot_controller.htm?o=2&search=1555283720

    I'm not sure you can configure Reaper to do that though... Ableton Live on the other hand is made for that specific purpose.
     
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  3. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    I now you can assign a lot of actions according to a vid I watched. But they where using a MIDI keyboard. You are on track device wise. Looks like it is available at the same price point here in the States as the Behringer. I do not know if Reaper can or cannot. But in the end I still would need a MIDI footswitch. I did not know of the Harley Benton unit. Thanks.
     
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    If you're not set on a footswitch, I've just started playing with ReaperWRB to setup my iPad to control it. It seems pretty powerful. Basically, you create tabs of icons/displays to control any actions you desire. One example was setting up a playlist to do a live set.
     
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    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    That does give me some thought. I will have to look at ReaperWRB. To see if it is supported on other O/Ses.
     
  6. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    I caught the Behringer FCB1010 on sale. So what the heck... I have one inbound.
     
  7. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    The Behringer arrived yesterday.

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    It does not have straight to USB so I had to go through an adaptor MIDI-USB from MIO. Could not have been easier. Reaper saw the MIO device and I was able to use right away. Well... one small hiccup, I had the wrong plug plugged into the MIDI Out of the Behringer. The MIDI IN plug (the white one) on the MIO device is plugged into the OUT of the Behringer. Once I got that straight I was able to go into Reaper, tell Reaper to use the Behringer as control only, create a custom action with about a half dozen tasks for what I wanted. Then back into the action list, selected the custom action, clicked the add button for assigning a short cut, step on the footswitch on the Behringer I wanted to assign it to and viola'. Reaper has a long list of actions that can be added to a custom action. And I just noticed that there is a scripting language ReaScript. I may have stumbled upon a very powerful combination. The Behringer has 10 assignable foot switches and 10 banks giving 100 footswitches under my feet. This is going to be handy as I piece together sections of compositions. I have not figured out if Reaper stores these custom actions globally or as part of the project.

    I will be having fun for the next few weeks.
     
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    I've just caught up with this thread. Sounds as if you're on the cusp of unleashing some very powerful functions. :thumb:
     
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  9. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    Someone posted a vid of Zoe Keating. She used the technique to layer her music in a live performance. It was just mind blowing. I bought her album it was that good to me. So I have wanted to try that out. Now if I could only play as well as Brain H.

    EDIT: Make that play as well as the majority of folks here.
     
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    I've read that Wagner used to get together with other great composers, and play the piano at great length, despite the fact that they were often considerably better pianists. This didn't prevent him from creating epic orchestrations though. :)
     
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  11. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    I am gonna pull chaos theory on this... to paraphrase it, put a 1000 monkeys in a room with a 1000 typewriters for a 1000 years, one of them is very likely to write war and peace. I'll be 1001st monkey. :)
     
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    What's interesting to me is the monkeys just won't. You could randomly generate letters – which is essentially what we're talking about here – from now to the end of time. It's the punctuation that will let them down.

    My belief is that you, on the other hand, will post something on here we can enjoy listening to. :)
     
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  13. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    Thank you Simon. I have learned so much over the past months since joining here. I will certainly try one day. I came here a woodworker and I may just wind up being a guitar player too. he he.
     
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    I think you underestimate the power of monkeys and their literary prowess.

    @Bowmap, hurry up and see if that thing works with stuff like Bias FX. :) I'm trying to find a nice pedal to control my presets other than the BlueBoard.
     
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    It 'should' be possible to assign almost any MIDI controls on a device to almost any parameters on a plug-in. The problem I've found is that MIDI controllers often ship with woefully inadequate documentation, leaving the user to work out the most elegant way to get the two to communicate.

    Speaking personally, my secondary problem is that I've become so used to accessing functions in Logic Pro using a mouse, I tend to revert to them even when I've set up perfectly good transport functions and the like on buttons right in front of my eyes!
     
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    Footswitches are great, but I ain't Fred Astaire, I trip over my feet just trying to walk in a straight line. When I'm playing, I follow the teachings of Joe Brown. Watch my hand, not my foot, as there's no connection between the two.
     
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    Yeah, for me it's more of a recording thing. For my few appearences with a band over recent years, the only guitar effect has been the volume control.
     
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    I hear ya. I know enough about MIDI to spell it but haven't dug deep enough other than to see the truth about documentation. :) I have very modest needs and it's really more for tinkering than anything. I just need to get off my duff to play around with it.
     
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  19. Bowmap

    Bowmap I nose a thang or two. Gold Member

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    @simoncroft is on the mark about my intended use. I want to use it in recording. And fortunately, the DAW I have does make it easy. Reaper has hundreds of commands that can be put together like little macros and to assign it to a pedal, when I am at that screen, I just step on the pedal I want to use. That is the point and click approach and with building the garage/workshop/office/studio building and trying to get my Termite Tele out of the way, exploring the programming language in Reaper is low on the list. I need just to refer to that building as the 4in1 building. Too much to type.

    EDIT: @JaxStratGuy... I just went to Bias FX website. And it has a macro builder and MIDI interface as you have already discovered. Kewl software. My guess is that it is compatible. But I am not sure when I would get a chance to test it.
    EDIT: Only Pro and Elite support MIDI. But the tutorial makes it seem simple enough. I have a Katana 100 for effects. I am not in need of BiasFX. Maybe their support folks would have first hand knowledge.
     
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    I'll be massively honest about this: assigning MIDI controllers to parameters is potentially a "whole new world", but it can also be a big "this seems more like work" zone that sucks up your time and feels like no fun at all. While I'd encourage anyone with a MIDI device and music software to be aware of its potential, it's probably something to explore when you have a specific goal in mind.

    Trying to work out how make the controls on my MIDI keyboard and little Akai 'mixer' talk to specific controls in Logic took me ages. Now I've jumped to a new computer, I need to revisit the whole set-up.

    If it drives you nuts, it's not just you. :)
     
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