reversed head stocks

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  1. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member

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    I'll leave it up to you scientific types to understand the physics behind it, but I can tell you with certainty the high and low E strings feel different on my reverse headstocks.

    It's not magic, voodoo, or Hendrix.

    Close your eyes and bend the strings...you'll feel it too.

    y'all are welcome to try out my guitar for yourselves
     
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    Scott Baxendale Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    It’s a gimmick totally based on Hendrix.
     
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    I feel strongly both ways.
     
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    Wrighty Most Honored Senior Member

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    I’ve seen several with the headstock back to front!
     
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    pblanton Strat-Talker

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    I like them on some guitars. When I was a kid we'd trade out our Bic Click pens to mix and match the top and bottoms in order to have two-tone pens. I feel like being able to do that with Fender guitars is a lot of fun too.

    But it does NOT make the tuning easier. In fact it's harder.

    Variety is the spice of life. You do you.
     
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    Slartybartfast Strat-Talker

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    Listen to Hendrix' tone, especially the live stuff. The reversed string length behind the nut works with the reverse angle of the bridge pickup (when he's using it anyway) contours the string to string tone all differently. A Firebird does it too. Also part of the reason any Gibson has a more powerful high E string than any Fender.
     
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    My unsolicited opinion was going to be that I didn't believe this could be the case, and it was purely psychological. But I think I was wrong.

    I was thinking what produces the sound is the length of string between the nut and the bridge, which regardless of normal or reverse head stock remains the same, it follows that the tension after tuning would need to be the same as well in order to produce the same note with either head stock. But then it occurred to me that the tension and length of string before the nut would definitely be different (i.e. the high-e going from 6" to 1.5" between nut and tuner) which I have to believe would have an impact on the feel of string bends at least, and maybe a more subtle effect on chords. A hack like myself might not notice a difference but a better player might easily.

    A locking nut would make it a moot point.
     
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    BuddhaFingas Senior Stratmaster Gold Supporting Member

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    Being a lefty, 90% of guitars are reverse-headstock to me.

    Including Les Pauls, if you consider the nut to be part of it.
     
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    Different string tension ... maybe... maybe not. Lets take it a little further. How about a reversed headstock with a locking nut???

    Anybody???

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    Droptop New Member!

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    It worked for Beck, Nuno and Hendrix.
     
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    AlexJCRandall Senior Stratmaster

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    Locking nuts remove any string past nut length from the equation no matter the size or length. Its the capacity of the string to move over the nut during bending that makes for the effect discussed here. So not only does the position of the tuner count, but the angle over the nut has an effect too. The angle to the nearest tuner on a typical fender neck is pretty abrupt, making for more difference than just string length.
     
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    That is an Aldo Nova Les Paul from the 80’s. Apparently the made around a dozen of them. Aldo has one and Rick Nielsen has a few. There was one for sale on Reverb recently. The were asking 8K for it,mI believe.
     
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    ‘I have one with a reversed headstock, but it has a locking nut and there is no difference in how it feels when bending strings and such.
     
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    To me, the attraction is to piss off Canadians.
     
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    Ahhh, Al...
    You're supposed to string the guitar as you would with a 'not reversed headstock...
    Putting the first (thinnest) string on the bottom and the sixth (thickest) on the top.

    That way it won't feel any different. :p
     
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    The only experience I had with them is an Epi reverse Firebird I had. That particular guitar I found to be headstock heavy. I have no issues with how they look though.
     
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    Actually, tuning a reverse headstock puts far less stress on your shoulder, elbow and wrist, which for this old guy, is kinda a big thing. Also tighter high string tension and more resonant low string response.
     
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    I made a reverse headstock out of a destroyed lefty Cort that I got for bargain. Obviously inspired by Hendrix. And no, I did not expect to be playing like Hendrix, but it was a fun project.
    To me neck profile and string gauge make much more tangible difference. Minus that I couldn't tell the difference.
     

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    johnted Strat-Talk Member

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    Yes, I can actually SMELL the difference in string tension when I pick up a guitar with a reversed headstock...