Rose Pickups is shutting down.

StratDaddy67

New Member!
Jan 8, 2022
3
North Carolina
I just wanted to comment here about Rose Pickups. Let me be clear that I understood there would be a wait (2 months was the longest I had read) I ordered from Ken in March of 2021. Prior to that I had emailed him and inquired about his pickups and what he made that would fulfill what I wanted. He explained that he could make me a set of “Blossoms” and stagger the poles to match the neck and explained why I would want it that way. I thought, What an Awesome guy! I ordered them under the impression that 2 months would be the time frame, which was also verified by several posts I had read about his work. After three months and still no pups I was fine. I wasn’t in a rush. Then around 3-4 months I saw where he was shutting down to catch up. I emailed him back to make sure my order would still be produced and he made it sound like my order would be ready soon. Two months later now pushing 6 months and still no pups. I contacted him again and for the first time I asked where my pickups were. His response back was not friendly, told me they were shipping out the next day, and that he was closing shop. I felt bad for asking him about them but when someone had already paid for the product like I had, at some point you start to get concerned if you will receive the product. I think anyone would agree that 7 mos is a long enough to wait without anybody giving them some sort of status or anything like that. I think he is probably a nice guy who just got fed up and aggravated with annoying people and then just started treating everyone the same way.
 

TangerineDog

Senior Stratmaster
Sep 5, 2015
3,162
The EU
I just came across this - looking to place an order with him.
I was fortunate enough to order from him before things got bad. Even with intercontinental shipping, I had the product after 2 weeks.

The Morticias I got are absolutely amazing! I don’t have them installed rn (I was gonna order another set and black covers for all of them. And the Tele equivalent!) but knowing they’re all I‘ll ever have in that tonal goodnes, they’re going into a guitar asap.

It’s a pity that stuff like that just has to happen over and over again...
 

nickmsmith

Dr. Stratster
Jul 28, 2011
14,246
USA
I just came across this - looking to place an order with him.
I was fortunate enough to order from him before things got bad. Even with intercontinental shipping, I had the product after 2 weeks.

The Morticias I got are absolutely amazing! I don’t have them installed rn (I was gonna order another set and black covers for all of them. And the Tele equivalent!) but knowing they’re all I‘ll ever have in that tonal goodnes, they’re going into a guitar asap.

It’s a pity that stuff like that just has to happen over and over again...
Yep. I sold my good friend a guitar loaded with the mariposas. He said he wanted to go order some more, a couple weeks ago. I had to break it to him that it’s no longer possible.
 

slowpogo2021

New Member!
Oct 28, 2021
3
Madison, WI
I ordered his Korona Jazzmaster pickups about a year ago, March 2021. I waited several months to ask about it, and he was pretty brusque in response, said they were "being made" and would ship soon. I waited another few months to ask again, but didn't hear back. Never got the pickups, never got refunded, never got another response to an email.
 
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Dave Harmon

Strat-Talker
Feb 18, 2016
277
Right Here
Just read the whole thread and kinda reminds me of Uncle Spot.
But....the flip side of THAT is....I got exactly what I ordered from Spot in good time and was outstanding quality.
I still have it and that was abt 20 years ago now.
 

texaspete4

New Member!
Apr 6, 2022
2
USA
I've seen it more than once where dudes start a business, can't keep up with the orders, get overwhelmed, everyone's pissed off, etc...
I know it's too late now, and it's all over and moot, but -
It seems like the obvious solution for Rose pickups would have been for the guy to wind pickups at his leisure, and then put them up for sale on reverb, or his own website or whatever.
Then start the next set. Or don't.
But you're removing the part where you get buried under orders that you can't keep up with, and you avoid getting pissed off and burned out.
Seems super obvious to me. I guess it wasn't to him for whatever reason.
I hope he does something cool with the money I sent him.
 

StratUp

Most Honored Senior Member
Sep 5, 2020
8,016
Altered States
With sympathies to him for what jerks some people/customers can be (I know the routine to well), seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Whateva, to each 'is own.
 

sjtalon

Most Honored Senior Member
Oct 27, 2006
5,041
Upper Peninsula-Michigan
So many of these types of vendors whereas their sites take your quid when you order.

By rights, (and proper business practices) there shouldn't be a cha-ching until they have the order boxed up.

Texaspete is right on. Often, folks (dealers, manufacturers) have only themselves to blame.

I've found out long ago with being in sales/service most all my life, never feel sorry for a manufacturer, after all they are the ones in the wheelhouse.
 
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Antigua

Senior Stratmaster
Feb 28, 2014
4,446
in between
Is there any sole pickup making operation that has ever shut down with their orders 100% completed at the time of closing? The only one I can think of is Telenator. All the rest are stories of "what happened to X? I ordered a set of Vintage Hot Tamales several months ago and they haven't answered my emails."
 

nickmsmith

Dr. Stratster
Jul 28, 2011
14,246
USA
I've seen it more than once where dudes start a business, can't keep up with the orders, get overwhelmed, everyone's pissed off, etc...
I know it's too late now, and it's all over and moot, but -
It seems like the obvious solution for Rose pickups would have been for the guy to wind pickups at his leisure, and then put them up for sale on reverb, or his own website or whatever.
Then start the next set. Or don't.
But you're removing the part where you get buried under orders that you can't keep up with, and you avoid getting pissed off and burned out.
Seems super obvious to me. I guess it wasn't to him for whatever reason.
I hope he does something cool with the money I sent him.
Yep. That’s a great point. Making them as you go, and selling a limited amount is a great way to get people excited at the idea of scarcity, and making it an event when it is released.

Instead, we get this, when a pickup maker gets overextended, and ends up lashing out at the customer, publicly.

Very sorry to see it went down that way!
 

Dick Blackmore

Senior Stratmaster
Jan 10, 2017
2,098
Black Hole
Never heard or bought the pickups but they had good reviews for being vintage. As a one man shop, dealing with an Amazon expectancy that comes with shipping things these days… I do not ‘charge’ until I ship. It’s a safe way to deal with folks that do not want to wait for a crafted item. I also make it very clear in my policies that items ordered are not ‘in stock’ and are ‘made to order’ and I provide a ‘current lead time’.

btw mass production is the issue not ‘Chinese made’, there are lots and lots of quality items that come from true artisans in China. Crappy products were not invented by the Chinese and crappy mass manufacturing is also not a Chinese invention, they just happen to have cheap labor IF you want to mass produce crap. Blame the company not the worker.
 

Groovey

Dr. Stratster
Nov 17, 2016
12,767
WV. USA
I’ve had a set of Mariposas with Buff bridge. In the box for few years now as I learn to polish bodies to a bowling ball finish. Hopefully this spring. Can’t wait to hear the sonic glory.
 

JohnMac

Strat-O-Master
Feb 5, 2018
991
Front Range, Colorado
I have a Rose Bourbon/Buckeroo Tele set and a Robusta/Buff Beauty Strat set. Fantastic pickups. To bad the business went south and worse yet that so many paid-for orders were left unfulfilled.
 
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Ottokbre

New Member!
Apr 26, 2022
1
DC
I got a set of Robustas with Buff bridge back in 2019 for a ground-up build I was doing. I don't know what the time was quoted at the time but it took over two months and two emails to get them.

Placed the order before I even started finish work. Probably about a month of sealing a swamp ash body, nitro color coat, nitro clear coat. Then another month to cure. Did the buff out and then they came. So the timing worked out for me.

Still love the pickups. Wish I nabbed a set of Tele pickups at the time too!
 

Gferg66

New Member!
Jun 27, 2022
1
Dallas,TX
It has been 11 months since Rose pickups took my money also. Now that he has disappeared with everyone’s money, is there any known recourse to anything about it?
 


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