Schroedinger's bits: Quantum computers

[StratMike10]

Reality: Corporations have nothing but their own interest as their prime objective.
Conspiracy theory: corporations are out to get you.

Reality: Some experts feel AI could eventually pose an existential risk.
Conspiracy theory: AI is out to get you

 

[BuddhaFingas]

Creation Of The Humanoids (1962)​

Watch It Here

Blue Man Group before technicolor.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

Reality: Corporations have nothing but their own interest as their prime objective.
Conspiracy theory: corporations are out to get you.

Reality: Some experts feel AI could eventually pose an existential risk.
Conspiracy theory: AI is out to get you

My initial post was 100% joke.

But with the double edge of bringing out interesting responses, like your extrapolating that raising questions is akin to conspiracy theory.
Stockholder?

How about glib myopic greed based faith in corporate making more money assuming lawyers will negotiate settlements after the unwanted side effects?

No theory required to simply observe decade after decade after decade of the same old strategy.
Bring "it" to market ASAP.
If studies show higher than acceptable risks, sue the study makers and pay for agenda based studies that show the risky product in better light.

Difficult to have a discussion when all our retirements are tied up in wall street success, progress equals secure futures!

Could and eventually.
Vs does and now.

Generally conspiracy theory equals nutcase.
How about faith in corporate?
Even more nutcase!

 

[Lost Sailor]

"political correctness" is AI and look where that got us!

 

[Boubou]

1. Read about new technology
2. is it a potential threat to humanity?

No ——-> Carry on
Yes ——> Create conspiracy theory and sow seeds of fear —-> Carry on

Well not a threat as such but definitely a threat if wielded by humans

 

[tubedude]

all i know is that Bard is much dumber than ChatGPT.
i was invited to test drive beta-Bard and it is basically Siri, very primitive so far.
it will still take our jobs though, i'm sure, 'cause we're not very bright ourselves...

I don’t think so. Artificial intelligence is no match for native stupidity.

 

[StratMike10]

My initial post was 100% joke.

But with the double edge of bringing out interesting responses, like your extrapolating that raising questions is akin to conspiracy theory.
Stockholder?

How about glib myopic greed based faith in corporate making more money assuming lawyers will negotiate settlements after the unwanted side effects?

No theory required to simply observe decade after decade after decade of the same old strategy.
Bring "it" to market ASAP.
If studies show higher than acceptable risks, sue the study makers and pay for agenda based studies that show the risky product in better light.

Difficult to have a discussion when all our retirements are tied up in wall street success, progress equals secure futures!

Could and eventually.
Vs does and now.

Generally conspiracy theory equals nutcase.
How about faith in corporate?
Even more nutcase!

My post was 100% joke as well, albeit tongue in cheek.

The goal of corporations is making money, don't see anything in my posts showing faith in corporations.

Conspiracy is all about how information is presented.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

My post was 100% joke as well, albeit tongue in cheek.

The goal of corporations is making money, don't see anything in my posts showing faith in corporations.

Conspiracy is all about how information is presented.

Well it is hard to know what anyone means on the internet and it is hard to even know what we ourselves mean when light heartedly chatting about chatbots, AI and quantum computers possibly coming to market.
(Three subjects)

But a notable current related event is here at Strat Talk, one of the advertizers slipped in some content that Enthused Digital could not identify and that current adblocker and popup blocker tech could not block.

So we here at ST got hit with new hacking tech and our private sector recreational computers had no defense.
Just as a new worldwide discussion got heated up about AI and a possible need for all to come together and "conspire" AKA cooperate to maintain control of a new tech before tossing it into the kindergarten class?

Not sure what your last line means?
Conspiracy is not how info is presented.
Unless you mean characterizing observed societal situations as "conspiracy theory", is about how info on societal situations is presented?

We arm waving humans do love some good arm waving!

 

[dirocyn]

So we here at ST got hit with new hacking tech and our private sector recreational computers had no defense.
Conspiracy is not how info is presented.
Unless you mean characterizing observed societal situations as "conspiracy theory", is about how info on societal situations is presented?

We got hit with something that got past our popup blockers. But it was also a transparent effort to get personal information, and I doubt if many of us fell for it. I suppose it could have been a conspiracy, very likely multiple people were involved. A scam, in any case. And the net result is a lot of us were annoyed. And more of us bought paid membership.

Perhaps it was a conspiracy between the scammers, advertisers, and our site owners, to make the site unusable unless we pay. But I doubt it. More likely one of the advertisers is the bad actor here.

 

[BuddhaFingas]

"All of today's problems are the result of yesterday's solutions." -Peter Senge

Which of course inescapably proves all of today's solutions are tomorrow's problems, too.

 

[StratMike10]

"All of today's problems are the result of yesterday's solutions." -Peter Senge

A conspiracy theorist would try to convince you it was planned that way

 

[BuddhaFingas]

A conspiracy theorist would try to convince you it was planned that way

And depending on the intent of the solution... might be correct.

 

[Butcher of Strats]

We got hit with something that got past our popup blockers. But it was also a transparent effort to get personal information, and I doubt if many of us fell for it. I suppose it could have been a conspiracy, very likely multiple people were involved. A scam, in any case. And the net result is a lot of us were annoyed. And more of us bought paid membership.

Perhaps it was a conspiracy between the scammers, advertisers, and our site owners, to make the site unusable unless we pay. But I doubt it. More likely one of the advertisers is the bad actor here.

I was not trying to bring conspiracy into the discussion.
That word is always brought up for the purpose of ridiculing and marginalizing anyone who questioms the unfettered advance of technology.

As noted, corporate spends on tech development for future profits.
After investment in new tech, investors want their money back with interest!
So when warchdogs, scientists, engineers, professionals in their field, and citizens; question the ethics of not thinking before "we" act?
They/ we get attacked and called names.
Not particularly here, the real attacks defame professionals and do other stuff like put farmers out of business if they refuse to grow Monsanto seed stock etc etc.
The demise of Monsanto is evidence that watchdogs and scientists who got defamed by corporations, are often correct in their warnings.

 

[Cyberi4n]

was not trying to bring conspiracy into the discussion.
That word is always brought up for the purpose of ridiculing and marginalizing anyone who questioms the unfettered advance of technology.

This. More than just the unfettered advance of technology, it extends as far as straying from the narrative you’re meant to accept, period

 

[pooterpatty]

If AI ever makes it into the mainstream, rest assured it’s first purpose will be to sell you something or separate you from your money in some way.

I was a web developer back in the early 90s when things were just getting started, and it might amuse you to know that most of the technical innovation on the internet started with pornography.

Things like chat rooms, streaming video, data compression algorithms, hell even credit card processing - thing we take for granted now- these things were just a pipe dream until companies running porn sites decided to develop (or invent) them. As I like to say, “as porn sites go, so goes the internet “.

In the case of AI, I’m sure one of the first practical uses will be for AIs to indulge whatever twisted fantasies you might have (for a modest subscription fee of course). I’m no longer in the industry, but I’d be surprised if they haven’t already been working on that kind of thing for years now.

 

[StratMike10]

And depending on the intent of the solution... might be correct.

Correct conspiracy theory... sounds like an oxymoron

 

[StratMike10]

I was not trying to bring conspiracy into the discussion.
That word is always brought up for the purpose of ridiculing and marginalizing anyone who questioms the unfettered advance of technology.

As noted, corporate spends on tech development for future profits.
After investment in new tech, investors want their money back with interest!
So when warchdogs, scientists, engineers, professionals in their field, and citizens; question the ethics of not thinking before "we" act?
They/ we get attacked and called names.
Not particularly here, the real attacks defame professionals and do other stuff like put farmers out of business if they refuse to grow Monsanto seed stock etc etc.
The demise of Monsanto is evidence that watchdogs and scientists who got defamed by corporations, are often correct in their warnings.

That's a lot of words to say corporations only care about money.
That's my baseline. Anything different I would approach with disbelief.

 

[rolandson]

Fortunately I shall not be among the living when this becomes our norm.
Being old and sick does have a few benefits.

 

[simoncroft]

AI is already being used to reduce employee head-count, just like every technology from powered looms in factories that put home weavers out of work in the early 1800's here in the UK, to those self-op terminals in stores that are starting to put even lowly paid check-out staff's jobs in danger.

To me, the question isn't so much whether the technology is fundamentally sound, but how it's being deployed, who it's going to benefit, and who is regulating it.

We all want things cheaper, but there is a paradoxical question: at what cost?

 

[Butcher of Strats]

That's a lot of words to say corporations only care about money.
That's my baseline. Anything different I would approach with disbelief.

Or you didn't use enough words to sum up my points that you missed?