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Scorsese's Rolling Thunder Revue

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  1. montemerrick

    montemerrick Listening to something, that’s for sure Strat-Talk Supporter

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    this is very worth looking at...


     
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    I WILL be checking this out! Thanks for the heads up!
     
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    guitarface Most Honored Senior Member

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    I watched it. It was pretty good. Some great performances from Dylan. Trying to make it a little too profound. But then the second half with hurricane kinda is profound.

    And it’s shorter than the Irishman.
     
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    I watched it. Very good indeed.

    Rock documentaries, the way I see them, are at their swan song phase, and man, they are singing beautifully.

    I also recommend Dennis McNally's books.
     
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    montemerrick Listening to something, that’s for sure Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I read Sam Shepard's book (with awesome photos) about the tour nearly 30 years ago (lost the book in a rent fiasco circa 2001) - it was fantastic and really captured the cold new england landscape and donut shops and the crazy events put into motion by getting a phone call from Dylan asking if he'd like to come along... i'm not sure the "profundity" of this tour can be overstated... i mean Dylan skirts the issue (as he does), but Ginsberg is a natural archivist and he knows that this is some powerful **** that may or may not work but it is a medicine... the time was very strange and the good guys lost (everybody knows that right?) ... as usually happens in such cases.
     
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    It was an extremely special deal. It deserves this treatment. Its historic.
     
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    I saw that a few months back.

    A must see, even if you don't dig Dylan
     
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    Most of the movie is fiction - Dylan and Scorsese are playing a joke on us.
    The congressman is an actor; Sharon Stone never went on tour with Dylan ( she would have been 17, not 19)
    The “ director “ is Bette Midler’s husband.

    As Dylan says “ if someone’s wearing a mask, they’re gonna tell you the truth.
    If they’re not wearing a mask, it’s highly unlikely”
     
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    interesting.

    I haven't seen it yet.

    Is it a sort of documentary using actors?
     
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    it uses a lot of footage from the tour, and then interspersed are modern "interviews" that may or may not be fictional... Stefan Van Dorp as the person shooting the footage, for instance, is a fictional character...

    In Sam Shepard's book, he wrote about the strangeness of touring with Dylan, which obviously did actually happen, the nonstop filming, some of which winds up as Renaldo and Clara, some scenes scripted, others just shot along the way and re-purposed into fiction... my memory on Sam Shepard's narrative is somewhat hazy, since i haven't read the book in a few decades, but the tour had an unsettling experience on the prople working on it, certainly Sam Shepard, largely because of the blurring of fiction with reality while zooming around from small town to small town, putting on Bob Dylan shows... Present day Dylan comments on Ramblin' Jack Elliot (he was a better sailor than a singer) are especially funny - since Dylan pretty straightforwardly lifted his vocal style from Elliot's Woody Guthrie impersonation... Ramblin Jack is still performing by the way... 88 years old!

    In any case, i think the blurring of fiction and reality has been Dylan's stock-in-trade since he dropped Zimmerman and became Dylan...
     
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    I agree
     
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    Reality vs fiction in the narrative aside, the performance footage is breathtaking, and caused me to reassess this period of Dylan's work. If you just hear the audio from the tour (as on previous bootleg series releases), the songs can sound rushed and kind of "shouty." Seeing the footage drives home how powerful and edge of the seat the performances were. Truly great stuff.
     
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    It’s more of a music movie than a doc.

    Nothing wrong with that
     
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    Thanks for the detailed synopsis Monte. :thumb:

    It sounds fascinating and just my cup of meat.

    I'll have to catch it.
     
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