SG neck dive

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  1. guitarface

    guitarface Most Honored Senior Member

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    so all sg's neck dive? Or are there some models or random one off that don't do it much?
     
  2. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

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    They all do. Some more than others, but even those that do it the least really hang into it.
     
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  3. carver

    carver Gone strangling

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    I have had a few SGs

    my 61 ri did not neck dive with a wide strap

    my standards did. but I had to try and make them... they wouldnt move on me while I was playing and I didnt need to support the neck

    now the firebird is a different story.. that thing headed for the ground faster than anything I have owned. probably because of the 12 pounds of tuners on the massive headstock
     
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    dante1963 Senior Stratmaster

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    My 60’s Tribute dives like The Titanic. However, my 2016 Firebird never dives. I guess the Steinberger tuners aren’t as heavy as the old banjo tuners. Pity they’ve been discontinued.
     
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    Cerb Anti conformist reformist

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    I had an SG Special Faded, no neck dive. The Ibanez Iceman on the other hand goes down like a German U-boat. When I bought it I found that the electronics cavity was stuffed with taped up coins. Counter weight...
     
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    musicalmartin Strat-Talker

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    Just dreamed this one up took at least 3 seconds so very well thought out !! ,Maybe some fishing weights attached to the end of the strap which fixes on the rear might work .might not take much .Vintage tuners are much lighter .
     
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    Stratbats Senior Stratmaster

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    My SG Faded never dived. It was a great guitar, had Dimarzio pickups...
     
  8. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Dr. Stratster

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    My 2012 Std doesn't have that feature. I do use a wide strap though
     
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  9. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member

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    '68 SG jr. does not dive...even with those hunk-of-lead known as Sperzel locking tuners
     
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    ivan H Strat-Talker

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    I have a 2013 60's tribute SG that will dive a little but isn't too bad. These have no pickguard so just the two humbucker routes with a drilling between them & the control cavity. I think this makes them less prone to dive than SG's that have the batwing 'guard & larger route. I use a 2 1/2" wide leather strap with a rough underside so can stand with the guitar unsupported & it doesn't dive, but leaning forward or moving around causes some dive. Keeping my forearm on the upper bout is all that is needed to stop it. My SG came stock with Grover (non locking) tuners which are quite heavy. Changing them out to something like Kluson's, which are a good bit lighter would most likely rectify the slight dive tendency. Cheers
     
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  11. nadzab

    nadzab Play Don't Worry Silver Member

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    I have an '09 Classic. Diving is not an issue, at least not to the point that I really notice it.
     
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    Phat-O-Caster Senior Stratmaster

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    My Iommi model SG has the strap button out on the top horn-no neck dive.
     
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    thomquietwolf Dr. Stratster Silver Member

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    [Preface]
    How's about a glossary of terms...

    Neck dive?
     
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    AngelDeVille Senior Stratmaster

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    Paperback Rocker Do it or screw it.

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    Edited.
     
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    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Silver Member

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    No dive w/ regular width, embroidered strap, here. (Epiphone SG - '66 G-400.)
     
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    errikwong Strat-O-Master

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    The 2000s Epi G400 I had from 2004-2015 neck dived like mad. Loved that thing and its massive chunk neck though.

    Rocking a 2012 SG Classic and 2006 SG Standard these days. No neck-dive to report.
     
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    s5tuart Perfecting time travel since 2525

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    Put a Bigsby on it! :D
     
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    I have seen some with neck heavy guitars do this.
    First lengthen the strap a little or a lot depending on how you like your guitar. Then put the guitar around your neck with the strings facing you. Now spin the body towards your body and the neck away. You might have to bend at the waist a little. The guitar should now be facing the right way with a twist in the strap.
     
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    stratman323 Dr. Stratster

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    Many Gibsons neck dive, it's simply bad design. SGs are bad, but Firebirds are even worse.
     
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