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  1. r_marczak_83

    r_marczak_83 Strat-Talk Member

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    I have a partscaster that is an alder body and maple neck. I currently have a SD 59 w/ alnico 2 magnet.
    The pickup is soooo bright, it kills me.
    I’ve tried an SD custom custom, a dimarzio Super distortion, and the 59 with the albino 5 magnet. All of these are way bright.
    Is there a darker pup I could go with?
    I primarily play 70’s-80’s rock, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Tesla, gnr, ect.
     
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    Welcome in, have you tried different capacitors?
     
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    It’s just a volume knob. No tone pots.


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    How do you normally have your treble control on the amp set? What amp is it?
     
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    500 or 250K?

    Makes a big difference on most 'buckers.

    Any of those pickups should get you where you want to go without being too bright.
     
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    Please give us a picture of your guitar (esp. showing the pickup location) and tell us more about your amp.

    A pickup that doesn't connect to a tone control is going to be bright, that is at least part of your issue.

    First thing to try, turn the volume most of the way down on the guitar and turn the amp up. If that fixes it, great!

    Second thing, add a tone control. If you don't want to put a knob on the outside of the guitar, you can use passive tone and leave everything under the pickguard. A 250k resistor in series with a .022uf cap (or for humbuckers a 500k resistor in series with a .047 cap) --that's between signal and ground--will darken the tone about as much as having a normal tone control in the guitar, turned up all the way.
     
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    Understandable.
     
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    Treble is on 3, or around 9:00 mark.
    Amps are Marshall dsl40c and a ceritone yeti 50w


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    500k


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    Right, and if you want less treble than that, try lower resistor values.
     
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    If your treble control is set at 3 and the sound is too bright, there's no reason to not turn it lower.
     
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    Ok. I might give this a try.


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    Have you tried a 250k?

    Might just do the trick, and it's a cheap experiment.

    I run a full size JB in a Strat with the stock 250k pots and it is perfect, for me.

    500K pots with a JB, in a Strat, is just too bright/harsh to my ears.

    Edited to add: @dirocyn kind of beat me to it... ooops!
     
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    I have not tried this. I have some cts 250k pots laying around. I could try this


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    Cool, let us know how it works for you.

    And forgive my manners, welcome to Strat-Talk, hang around, there are a lot of great people here!
     
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    Or you could turn the pot down halfway and see if that darkens the tone enough.

    Now that I have more info--this is a bridge pickup, it's a humbucker, it's a 500k pot. Usually people do use 500k pots with humbuckers, the reason for that is to brighten them up. Single coils generally use 250ks in order to darken them.

    And of course Strats, stock, dont' have tone control on the bridge in order to leave the bridge pickup as bright and searing as it possibly can be.

    The first thing I'd do is try it turned halfway down and see if that gets you in the ballpark. If that's still too bright, I suggest adding a 500k resistor and a .047 cap.
     
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    ALBINO 5 MAGNET ? Precious..lol. That's the Johnny Winter model pickup. Seriously, it should not be THAT bright. As some have suggested, check the volume and tone control pot values. If 500K you might try reducing those values to 300K to darken the pickup. I bought a 30 yr Anniv. LP years ago that was too dark sounding, even after replacing the pickups with SD 59's, only to find that all pots were 300K.
     
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    I see that you have no tone control knob. So what you can do is install the resistor between the cable and the amp make a small box with your two jacks installed and the resistor put in between the two and you could use a simple speaker type socket that you put bare wire leads into and then you can change the resistor out with out soldering make it eazy to get the treble where you want. speaker wire conector.jpg
     
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    I thought the tone control was resistance and capacitance? That would be just like another volume knob the way you explained.


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